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Post by carlislewhite on Jun 15, 2015 11:09:25 GMT
Moorlad - not sure how the two sit together (not Nixon and Jenkins, horrible thought, but keeping his job and telling them the fans think they are clueless)
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Post by moorlad on Jun 15, 2015 11:16:13 GMT
I don't think he needs to put it quite like that, he needs to be getting across that the natives are a bit restless because they aren't getting the information they feel they deserve. He could tell them, for example, that there has been the Coleman article in the paper (yes they'll no doubt have seen it), and that there are fans groups meeting. I actually tend to think he's doing his job if he explains some of this stuff to them, and I wouldn't think they'll sack him just for bringing it to their attention, they might even thank him (no, I know).
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Post by CarlisleReiver on Jun 15, 2015 11:28:38 GMT
An absolute shan of a thread this! Give the guy a break, he just doing his job. I'm sure you wouldn't like getting slagged like this. If was you officialcufc I wouldn't bother registering for the new forum. Save yourself a heap of hassle, twitter, facebook, webpage programme etc is good enough for the majority.
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Post by moorlad on Jun 15, 2015 11:53:49 GMT
He's not getting slagged though, I think most people accept that he's in a really difficult situation.
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Post by CarlisleReiver on Jun 15, 2015 11:56:05 GMT
Only takes one or two knobhe*ds to ruin it for everyone doesn't it moorlad and why put yourself in this difficult situation.
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Post by chesterviabothel on Jun 15, 2015 11:58:16 GMT
He's not getting slagged though, I think most people accept that he's in a really difficult situation. I agree with you there moorlad, but there are a couple that are. This Comical Andy nickname keeps popping up.
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Post by moorlad on Jun 15, 2015 12:03:07 GMT
Only takes one or two knobhe*ds to ruin it for everyone doesn't it moorlad and why put yourself in this difficult situation. Well it is his job to get information out there Reiver, so I suppose he has to really. For the same reason he pretty much needs to be on the new board as well, otherwise he'll be accused of having been made to not post on messageboards by Jenkins and Nixon.
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Post by officialcufc on Jun 15, 2015 12:23:20 GMT
Already registered for the new board - I see it as vital. Been accused regularly of avoiding posting on here - but that has come from face to face discussions with a lot of the posters. The majority verdict is that comments on absolutely every thread make things worse. I think I agree with that. It's more a place for supporters to air opinion and where I, and others at the club, can report back on it. On occasion I feel it's prudent to throw an official slant. That isn't always agreed with or accepted.
I also agree with moorlad - I don't see this type of thread as a slagging at all. Yet again, some very good points made, sometimes forcefully. Rightly so. The Comical Andy thing is a great nickname, particularly in the circumstances. Completely understand where it's come from.
I will always do what I can to bring info, but will never work against company policy. As I say, I am outside the confidentiality clause and the investment process on this one, and I completely understand why that has to be the case.
Frustrating as we wait but, having signed similar confidentiality clauses myself in the past, I can tell you there's nothing you can do but abide by it.
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Post by moorlad on Jun 15, 2015 13:05:24 GMT
Already registered for the new board - I see it as vital. Been accused regularly of avoiding posting on here - but that has come from face to face discussions with a lot of the posters. The majority verdict is that comments on absolutely every thread make things worse. I think I agree with that. It's more a place for supporters to air opinion and where I, and others at the club, can report back on it. On occasion I feel it's prudent to throw an official slant. That isn't always agreed with or accepted. I also agree with moorlad - I don't see this type of thread as a slagging at all. Yet again, some very good points made, sometimes forcefully. Rightly so. The Comical Andy thing is a great nickname, particularly in the circumstances. Completely understand where it's come from. I will always do what I can to bring info, but will never work against company policy. As I say, I am outside the confidentiality clause and the investment process on this one, and I completely understand why that has to be the case. Frustrating as we wait but, having signed similar confidentiality clauses myself in the past, I can tell you there's nothing you can do but abide by it. I'm pleased you're taking it so well, and don't see it as a problem, and I agree it is absolutely vital to have this, and other, lines of communication well and truly open. I knew it had to be the case that company policy had to be respected and I'm sure most posters on here recognise and respect that. As I'm sure you yourself, if not the club as a whole, respect the frustration of the fans at what is currently happening at the club. At times it must be the best job in the world, but I'm sure there are times when you feel pretty fed up.
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Post by CarlisleReiver on Jun 15, 2015 13:20:21 GMT
Fair enough. I just don't see other clubs PR guy publicly get involved in forums (they may read them and react to them) that is all. But Andy if you're happy with it then good on you we all do love the insight that you give.
I think you should get Deano to change your name to ComicalAndy that would be class.
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Post by blightyblue on Jun 15, 2015 13:32:18 GMT
To be honest it's a waste of time him being on here in his official capacity as any news he comes out with is about two weeks old anyhow.
Like a stuck record 'my hands are tied' should be his new sign in or 'lock in clause' might be another.
Even when he got shanned with them lads from Germany or wherever wanting a shirt - didn't he want to send them a home made banner or something!!
I bet he blamed everyone else for that too.
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Post by walwynlegend on Jun 15, 2015 13:59:32 GMT
Yet all this officialcufc is a great guy and talks to the supporters but can't tell us anything is a bit of a contradiction.
When the Lapping deal fell through you stated there was no smoke and mirrors regarding another investor (or similar wording) which suggests you know there is one.
So without breaking any confidentiality regarding identity can you at least confirm there is one?
If not why state there was no smoke and mirrors?
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Post by officialcufc on Jun 15, 2015 14:08:38 GMT
Yeah, there is one walwyn.
moorlad, as you see from the replies to my last post, some people won't accept an official presence on here at all. Again, I understand that completely. What I will never do is answer a question or reply to a post with something which compromises the club position or breaks trust.
It's why it's better to be accused of hiding, when I'm monitoring comments, rather than turn threads away from the main point of discussion by contributing to it.
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Post by moorlad on Jun 15, 2015 14:12:21 GMT
My argument would be that there should always be some sort of club presence on any forum like this, I can understand your reluctance to intervene on some threads, as it would undoubtedly be taken the wrong way by some.
I appreciate your explanation of your position. Thanks.
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Post by walwynlegend on Jun 15, 2015 14:16:53 GMT
Ok officialcufc thanks for at least confirming the new potential investor actually exists.
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Post by whytakemypostcode on Jun 15, 2015 16:51:39 GMT
Official, so you are saying there is a potential investor, but you are outside of the confidentiality agreement obviously. Therefore you just have AJ and JN's word! Must be true then.
With the stick they have been taking, if it is true, then surely they would have come out in the last week to once and for all categorically say so...
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Post by oldhamblue on Jun 15, 2015 16:59:20 GMT
Official, so you are saying there is a potential investor, but you are outside of the confidentiality agreement obviously. Therefore you just have AJ and JN's word! Must be true then. With the stick they have been taking, if it is true, then surely they would have come out in the last week to once and for all categorically say so... This is the nub of Andy's problem, right now I suspect most people would not believe AJ/JN if they said the Earth is round.....I also suspect Andy knows this which is why I used the Comical Andy nickname.... Obviously, no should expect him to break any club confidences, as Moorlad said there are things you do that you don't want to given the nature of one's employment - that is life..... My problem began with the JN going on holiday and then AJ not doing interviews and then giving interviews....I re-iterate my point in my last post Andy, AJ/JN can come out categorically and say that Steve P will NEVER be any part of the CUFC board again - full stop. That would help at least a little.
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Post by bruntonpete on Jun 15, 2015 17:10:18 GMT
I wonder if anyone is advising jn that he really should give us an update even if it just gives a rough timescale or a bit of hope. We just need something!
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Post by kurtz on Jun 15, 2015 17:29:43 GMT
Just to play Devil's Advocate here: It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to recognise that AH can ultimately come back with a 'well I was told there was an investor so I was only reporting what I was told', should it ever be proven there indeed never was one. Personally, I still don't believe there is and if all it takes is an employee of the club to repeat what his bosses have said to get people's heads turned, then more fool them. Nothing personal but just because he has been forced into a confirmation one way or the other does not sway me in the slightest.
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Post by Bluestblue on Jun 15, 2015 17:33:25 GMT
Just to play Devil's Advocate here: It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to recognise that AH can ultimately come back with a 'well I was told there was an investor so I was only reporting what I was told', should it ever be proven there indeed never was one. Personally, I still don't believe there is and if all it takes is an employee of the club to repeat what his bosses have said to get people's heads turned, then more fool them. Nothing personal but just because he has been forced into a confirmation one way or the other does not sway me in the slightest. This is a fair point OfficialCUFC. Are you just passing on the official message or do you actually KNOW for sure yourself
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Post by champagnesupernova on Jun 15, 2015 18:11:52 GMT
Andy, you've always come across as a decent guy and I can only imagine the sort of tightrope you're having to walk in all of this.
I imagine things will get a bit easier for you as well if something did happen on the takeover front, it must be like trying to give press conferences for the KGB at the minute...
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Post by loser on Jun 15, 2015 19:09:50 GMT
The Comical Andy crack is fairly spot on in some respects. For example that thread where he valiantly tried to defend the much-hated obsession with collecting postcodes despite the fact that it was clearly p*ssing people off to no end.
BUT SADDAM TAKES YOUR POST CODES BECAUSE IT IS GOOD FOR YOU.
ffs.
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Post by oldhamblue on Jun 15, 2015 19:27:28 GMT
I wonder if anyone is advising jn that he really should give us an update even if it just gives a rough timescale or a bit of hope. We just need something! One would hope so - I wouldn't expect Andy to answer that of course and no one should (it's a breach of confidence)......frankly, I suspect that trying to talk to those two is like trying to talk to a wall; especially with regard to the internet as I think they just don't 'get' it...
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Post by officialcufc on Jun 15, 2015 19:29:03 GMT
As I said loser - not everybody likes the answers or explanations when I give them. Have to accept that as soon as I type anything.
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Post by theboydonegood on Jun 15, 2015 19:29:43 GMT
If I was Andy I wouldn't post on here. If he doesn't, he gets hammered, if he does, people just say he's swallowed a lie from JN. What's the point? Can't people understand he's in a difficult position and let the man alone? Show some class people.
Honestly, it's like a Roswell convention on here at the minute. Where on earth do people dream up all these conspiracy theories? What next, Knighton's aliens are the investors? Can't folk just stop papping themselves and wait to see what turns up?
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Post by walwynlegend on Jun 15, 2015 19:31:37 GMT
My question wasn't have JN and AJ said there is another investor as I know they have, it was can you (Andy Hall) confirm there is one which he has so I would accept that and would also accept that he could know that without knowing the identity and even if he did he wouldn't reveal it as he'd get sacked.
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Post by whytakemypostcode on Jun 15, 2015 19:35:32 GMT
Any chance of answering Bluestblue Q Andy please?
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Post by useless on Jun 15, 2015 19:45:41 GMT
It would be nice to have "some answers and explanations" with which to disagree
Nothing personal like..
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Post by bluebry on Jun 15, 2015 20:19:31 GMT
It would be nice to have "some answers and explanations" with which to disagree Nothing personal like.. Why do people keep badgering the guy, its pretty bloody obvious hes in a difficult position.
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Post by useless on Jun 15, 2015 20:27:44 GMT
Because we deserve some answers
Because we deserve some communication
Because we should be treated better than this
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