Well, this is a refreshing change.

Thats exactly what i said earlier

If you are now forbidden to build on your own land because E.A. rules have changed, the value of that land has been vastly reduced by Govmt legislation and compensation would be due.

But one thing we do agree on is that for any number of reasons B.P. would be the best and in pure money terms actually the cheapest to develop as nearly half the capacity needed is already there and before anyone says yeah but you cant do anything with the space in the East Stand making it a white elephant well once again utter crap it just needs a largish amount of cash thrown at it to do it and as part of a major redevelopment that could be done but heres a radical thought for you if it is so unsuitable for hospitality/bars etc turn it into offices and move the club administration into there.

I dont see any reason that a stand cant be built at the Waterworks end all you have to do is move the defences back to allow room for the construction [maybe moving them in the opposite direction somewhere else to compansate if thats an issue ] and then build the stand on a pad raising the ground floor level above the height of the flood barriers which on the pitch side would actually create an extra 10 rows of seating [ approx 1000 seats ].

And all this could be done maintaining an acceptable capacity at all times and without closing the ground.


The 4000 seater Stand at the waterworks could be built during a season with no effect on Capacity or operations.

Then with the new stand ready for use as soon as the season ends the Warwick is demolished and a new 3000 capacity identical [ other than the extra 1000 seats ] stand is built 20 yds towards the waterworks finally alligning the pitch with the East Stand after 20 years and allowing access and a concourse at its rear.

So in less than 2 years you have a 13000 capacity 3 sided ground as well as the capacity and facilities of the Main stand side still being available for use [ this is basically how things were done at Plymouth 15 years ago and this year they will demolish their old main stand to finally complete their redevelopment ]

Now i wouldnt envisage waiting that long so would move straight on to phase 2 which would basically involve building 2 virtually identical 1000 seater mini stands in the corners which without creating a continuous 3 sided ground would fill the corners in completely the one at the waterworks end containing new dressing rooms and tunnel etc and the one at the Warwick road end a ticket office and pub.This stage would also include creating the offices in the East Stand as well as completing the boxes that already exist and then move into the new accomodation during the 3 rd summer break.

You now have a fully functioning 15000 capacity 3 sided ground at which point the old Main Stand would cease to be used and possibly be demolished.

But here is the clever bit while all this has been going on the Rugby Clubs practice pitch has been purchased creating a large plot of land on that side of the site, the right side of the flood defences on which to build a couple of enabling developments and the new fourth stand the cost, size, complexity and facilities of which could be decided on a couple of years down the line as dictated by our position and aspirations at the time.

Simple really just two problems that i can see one being the cash to do it and the other being the local builder and his plans for the land but then again thinking about it its the same problem really because if there was no charge on the ground we.d be able to borrow the money to get the whole thing started.

Simple answer is the City Council dont grant him a single planning application until he agrees to remove his charge from the ground.

But lets face it none of this is going to happen just like project Blue Yonder isnt while the whole shambles has the words of the Auditors hanging over it saying that the losses of the last two years present a significant threat to the continued existance of the company and therefore the club itself unless a long term solution is found that is unless of course there is a plan that the Three Stooges arent telling us anything about and if there is you can be sure it will involve the local builder somewhere.

I know plenty about Barry pal, including all his thieving, but maybe his pillow talk with you didnt extend that far.

almostblueheaven = THEBIGBLUE.

It's not possible for two people in the world to be so retarded.

Youre not having a good day Moose Barry said last night someone would very quickly accuse me of being him but just to make it clear that i.m not and that not only is he registered on this site but has been over on Footymad for over three years despite the booksellers best efforts to keep him off there.

Anyway he sends his best wishes and hopes that youre not finding life down south too much of a pain after the demise of your previous position.

Fraid youre reading things into whats being said that arent actually there

Nowhere does it say that you were discussed when we spoke last night.So dont flatter yourself Moose.

When i texted him earlier to say that someone called Moose was having a go he actually seemed surprised that you were because he says after the time you met at a match you were conversing by e mail on all things CUFC for a time and he still sporadically recieves generic e mails from you about things like tel no changes etc so either youve got a very bad memory, you need to sort out whos in your e mail notifications list or youre not actually the real Mr Moose.

Easy way to proove if you are who you purport to be he said to ask you which town were you visiting the time when you spoke with him.

"Next time you speak to him ask him when he is going to return the money he stole off his fellow supporters in the Travel Club?"

In reply to the above accusations from Moose i quote from a text Barry sent me about an hour ago and i have his permission to post it on here

In relation to the Warwick Travel Club No one had any money stolen Approx £600 was taken in Membership money at the start of the project this money was spent on the set up and administration of the club eg things like printing and postage etc and was there to ensure that the club always had funds in the kitty and what was left was eventually used to pay an outstanding coach bill after the club was forced to cease operating by Cumbria Constabluary after a number of incidents on our trips.

Not one person who paid to be a member has ever asked for his money back,reported a theft to the police or given me any grief about it in the 30 years since since the Warwick Travel Clubs adventures that season and we are talking about some pretty serious players here who believe me made the BCF look like the Micky Mouse Club and anyone who reminices about those days with me does so with fond memories of what we got up to and up until i stopped attending home games still spoke with several of them quite regularly when we bumped into each other.

So Moose if that is the best youve got i.m pretty relieved and there was me thinking you knew some of the realy serious stuff phew.

I dont understand your hostility this afternoon as the last time we spoke you were fine and i thought we.d moved on from the name calling etc or is it that you still believe the local builder has no ulterior motives towards the club.

I was going to type the above in caps but its really not as easy to do as you might think. Ha Ha.

missed all this banter on the other board

Builder wants to acquire land to build houses on shocker, and tell Barrybullshitter Sheffield is fine.

Deja vu anyone?

A quote from Timothy over on F.M.

"Merry Christmas one and all!
I'd just like to officially state that I will only be posting on this forum and on no others."

Well that didnt last very long did it Timothy

Yes, as already confirmed, initials are GG, and you know exactly who I mean.

Well i know nothing of the incident i certainally wasnt there and Barrys read this thread this evening, doesnt recall this incident, doesnt recognise the initials G.G.  and doesnt believe hes ever been on a train with you in fact the only day he recalls you at a match was the day reffered to earlier and on that occasion he believes you arrived from and left to a different location in a different direction.

At what point does all this become libelous? Because i havent the foggiest whats going on. Good read though.

Fair play MOOSE.
You should sign up proper pal, get rid of the Guest status.