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Post by mojo on Dec 26, 2013 18:18:18 GMT
it could be if we got fattim / piglet involved. he knows some amount of stuff on the quiet.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2013 18:19:17 GMT
Fattim did join yesterday. IF it was really him.
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Post by mojo on Dec 26, 2013 18:20:47 GMT
as did CCU, if again it was him.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2013 18:23:38 GMT
will have been, his "how do" was very twitter-esq
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Post by almostblueheaven on Dec 26, 2013 18:24:32 GMT
I can confirm for you that he is alive. kicking as obnoxious as ever and reasonably well [ despite a few quite serious operations over the past few years for an ongoing medical problem ].
I think the last game he went to was 2 years ago today at Nob End. I know that people were trying to persuade him to go today but he was having none of it when the clubs pathetic performance over the ticketing for today and the Sunderland game came to light. But i do know he has tickets for the Cup game so we.ll all have to wait and see.
After his fallout at CUFC he came close to joining the boards of a couple of local clubs [ one of which is a lot bigger now than it was then ] but like when he was a guest of companies in the drinks industry at the likes of Old Trafford and Anfield he always said "nah not for me" and off he went and developed other interests.
But hes a guy who holds grudges and is confident that one day it,ll all come out and he.ll have the last laugh when he says "i told you so "
Might tell him about this site and you never know he might join not sure if he.d post in capitals or not though.
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Post by almostblueheaven on Dec 26, 2013 18:33:39 GMT
Ive a feeling a lot more can be posted here than it could on cufconline. This will be an interesting thread. It will be till the builder starts sending the solicitors letters or more likely some of his labourers round.
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Post by mojo on Dec 26, 2013 18:34:51 GMT
get him on. capitals or not, the messageboard was always an interesting place when he was about.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2013 18:35:19 GMT
Round to who though? This new admin guy is a mystery to me.
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Post by Cumbrianblue on Dec 26, 2013 18:39:29 GMT
Hornets nest and cans of worms!
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Post by mojo on Dec 26, 2013 18:41:15 GMT
ah, welcome to the discussion donald.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2013 18:42:55 GMT
Neil McDonald, now theres a man for a good discussion about!
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Post by Cumbrianblue on Dec 26, 2013 18:43:56 GMT
Cheers mojo, imagine this thread on cufc online.
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Post by mojo on Dec 26, 2013 18:47:15 GMT
no,not really donald.
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Post by Cufcpunditry on Dec 26, 2013 18:47:53 GMT
Not sure what you're on about there abh. The whole of the land occupied by BP (including the car park which was previously the training pitch) was always floodplain. There was nothing anyone could ever do to influence this. If any previous owner had designs on developing BP for housing then this was well and truly scuppered by the last bad flood, which is why the current owners are looking for an enabling development to fund a new stadium on a new site - in other words the BP site could not raise the money from development to fund a new stadium. Much as I like conspiracy theories, I don't think yours stacks up.
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Post by Cumbrianblue on Dec 26, 2013 18:52:59 GMT
no,not really donald. itc..mentioned "the one who must not be named" i can see this turning nasty!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2013 18:58:27 GMT
hee hee In the context that he was a good manager who wasnt given a proper bite at the cherry here.
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Post by mojo on Dec 26, 2013 18:58:32 GMT
it's early days on here. i think we can get away with loads for now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2013 19:00:05 GMT
Expect TBB to return on the day before Good Friday, travelling along Warwick road on his ass, with huge crowds lining the route waving bullrushes at him.
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Post by Cumbrianblue on Dec 26, 2013 19:10:51 GMT
it's early days on here. i think we can get away with loads for now. itc, its not gona go away is it, plenty still talk about it, foot balling matters my ars e
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2013 19:21:09 GMT
You can only say what you know though Donald. And i know nowt ;-)
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Post by Cumbrianblue on Dec 26, 2013 19:24:17 GMT
You can only say what you know though Donald. And i know nowt ;-) me either
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2013 19:26:34 GMT
How much credibility does Piglet's Smurf story have?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2013 19:27:01 GMT
I was elsewhere your honour.
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Post by CCU on Dec 26, 2013 21:25:52 GMT
I'm deffo me, if you know what I mean!
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Post by CCU on Dec 26, 2013 21:28:57 GMT
ABH, are you CB? If not, you sound very like him!
Guessing the Clubs you mention are Fleetwood (Much bigger operation now) and Accrington?
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Post by almostblueheaven on Dec 26, 2013 22:12:56 GMT
Not sure what you're on about there abh. The whole of the land occupied by BP (including the car park which was previously the training pitch) was always floodplain. There was nothing anyone could ever do to influence this. If any previous owner had designs on developing BP for housing then this was well and truly scuppered by the last bad flood, which is why the current owners are looking for an enabling development to fund a new stadium on a new site - in other words the BP site could not raise the money from development to fund a new stadium. Much as I like conspiracy theories, I don't think yours stacks up. Be interested to know how old you are because your knowledge only seems to go back about 5 years If you look back a couple of weeks on the footymad board there is a thread about the plans that Knighton had for what was the old car park [where the trainning pitch is now] even a couple of drawings and plans etc and i can tell you for fact that at that time it would of been possible to build on that land why do you think he bought the extra piece of land that was later to form the dispute between The Builder, The Club, The Trust and J.C. ? to graze sheep on ? and as has been said before at the time it was built on the land that Tesco now stands on had the same designation as the car park at B.P. did and it didnt stop them did it. And if you were old enough to remember the flood defence walls were not located where they are now for instance before the East Stand was built the defences were at the other side of what was then the trainning pitch and do you think they were moved to allow the building of the Neil Centre and yes while i agree the old car park was seen as land that would flood it was not designated in the way it is now. I never said the builder was going to build houses on the site neither i nor TBB i dont think know what he has planned for it but i do know that the Project Blue Yonder includes him getting his hands on it lets face it in all but name he already owns it with the debenture he has on it and i would imagine the deal is in exchange for the land he writes off the debt [ which btw as Moorlad will no doubt confirm for you ] he could of been writing down each year against his liabilities but hasnt been and chucking a few hundred grand into the pot for the project which he immediately recoups when he is named as the new stadiums developer. Lets face it youd have to be pretty thick, nieve, blinkered or all 3 if you think the builder is.nt the one man in Carlisle with the right "connections" and deep pockets to know that he could ensure that he got planning permision for whatever it is he has plans for and remember there is no law against building on flood plain if the local council gives you permision to. And to conclude no one ever said you could fund a new Stadium by selling the land at B.P. alone even if none of it were affected by flooding but i can assure you that if it were not, the land at BP is ample big enough for not only the stadium but a couple of enabling developments as well i refer you to the sites at lets say Rotherham and Blackpool to name but two and that certainally applies to the possible use of the site at the Viaduct as well and before you say yes but what about a thousand car parking spaces i think you.ll find that youre now encouraged not to provide them any more but have to provide green transport solutions instead as per at Shrewsbury and i.m sure that Tesco would love to extend and then hire out their car park every other Saturday afternoon. Believe me theres only one reason that they dont want to develop at B.P. and its nothing to do with cost , size , flood plain, access, parking or whatever its because it doesnt fit in with The Builders plans for the site.
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Post by almostblueheaven on Dec 26, 2013 22:32:43 GMT
ABH, are you CB? If not, you sound very like him! Guessing the Clubs you mention are Fleetwood (Much bigger operation now) and Accrington? Whos C.B. ? But yes one of them was Accrington. TBB had a run in with their chairman the night he sponsored the game down there and had Sir Jimmy as his guest but he became friends with another director and sponsored a couple more games for them while he had a business in the town and when the chairman was ousted a little later he was suggested as someone who may of been interested in joining the board. But as i say he wasnt interested but i know he still has a soft spot for them and all the **** theyve been through over the last ten years or so. I.m not able to comment on your other suggestion because i dont know the story behind it but he did have a pub in that town and had business dealings and a mutual friend with the guy whos now put all the money in to that club.
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Post by Cufcpunditry on Dec 27, 2013 9:19:44 GMT
Abh. I'm not as naive as you may think. I'm aware that Knighton had plans to develop around Brunton Park, including a hotel and a cinema. Of course he hoped to develop further, hence buying the farmland, but times change and so do the prospects of being allowed to build on floodplain. I accept that Story may have thought he could have done some development when he first acquired the Club, but all I'm saying is that the floods and subsequent changes in Government policy towards development on floodplain have moved the goalposts (almost literally).
Personally, I would never trust any developer. There's only so much they can get away with though. I still think the floodplain land, including Brunton Park, has little redevelopment value and not worth any developer bothering with when there's plenty of non floodplain land around.
My own view is that the Club have to urgently think about how they can modernise BP because unless a sugar daddy comes along I can't see anyone building us a stadium for free anywhere else.
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Post by MOOSE on Dec 27, 2013 13:17:43 GMT
TBB is no more credible than Walter Mitty, and as for his "business interests", he doesn't have any, he is a manager for a pub chain, he hasnt got a pot to **** in. Anyone can cobble a couple of hundred quid together to sponsor a game.
Barry's big problem is his jealousy, he thinks he should be where the likes of Fred and JC are, the only problem with that is that he hasnt got the brains or the money.
Bigger fantasist than Knighton, more on a par with the curry house waiter that tried to buy the Club.
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Post by fattim on Dec 27, 2013 13:42:34 GMT
For once I agree with you Moose, is this the same bigblue who wished cancer on a director the other month. The man is a fool and a fantasist. How is his ladyboy friend at the moment?
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