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Post by exiledjock on May 19, 2015 20:14:45 GMT
6000+ views of this thread. So many pairs of eyes watching the **** hit the fan and being reminded that a couple of people have the capacity of ruining something we hold dear. #neverforget
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Post by bruntonpasty on May 19, 2015 20:17:27 GMT
Cheers Lummy, your efforts are appreciated.
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Post by loser on May 19, 2015 20:17:50 GMT
Classic Nixon, Classic Carlisle. Shoot ourselves in the foot every single time. A simply appalling way to conduct business. There's no way you'd be entertaining an offer at this stage unless you've known about it for some time and had some reasonably firm and substantiated proposals. Which means they've deliberately kept Lappings party and Trust in the dark. Why would you want to work with the current regime, even in a transitional period, after this disgraceful behaviour? Lapping and his investors certainly won't. The deal's dead I'm afraid. A message to Andy Hall too: presumably as a supporter of the club, how can you continue in good conscience to be the mouthpiece for this Board of Jokers? Said this for ages. How can Andy Hall justify being their f*cking mouthpiece ffs.
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Post by markovitch on May 19, 2015 20:21:36 GMT
9 months of hard work, now everyone will walk away because they have to wait 2 or 3 weeks? Patience guys, patience. Then lets see what is really on the table. 2 weeks is nothing in a 5 year plan. This has been written off before we know what it is. Grant Holt managed and owned investment fund?
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Post by bruntonpete on May 19, 2015 20:21:42 GMT
This is the time the club needs the fans. The strength of feeling is palpable. Nixon and Jenkins needs to sort this out in days not weeks. They need to be open and give us a lot of information ASAP.
A lot has been mentioned about past apathy. Now the blood is boiling again. Pity it is for negative reasons again. I love this club to bits but they are incredibly unprofessional and have been for years! !
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Post by dancingbear on May 19, 2015 20:22:08 GMT
Classic Nixon, Classic Carlisle. Shoot ourselves in the foot every single time. A simply appalling way to conduct business. There's no way you'd be entertaining an offer at this stage unless you've known about it for some time and had some reasonably firm and substantiated proposals. Which means they've deliberately kept Lappings party and Trust in the dark. Why would you want to work with the current regime, even in a transitional period, after this disgraceful behaviour? Lapping and his investors certainly won't. The deal's dead I'm afraid. A message to Andy Hall too: presumably as a supporter of the club, how can you continue in good conscience to be the mouthpiece for this Board of Jokers? Said this for ages. How can Andy Hall justify being their f*cking mouthpiece ffs. Coz they pay his wages???. Could become the new comical Ali.
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Post by loser on May 19, 2015 20:28:04 GMT
Said this for ages. How can Andy Hall justify being their f*cking mouthpiece ffs. Coz they pay his wages???. Could become the new comical Ali. I know why he does it I'm just angry! I bet he cries into his pillow every night having to be the mouthpiece for those cretins.
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Post by loser on May 19, 2015 20:29:44 GMT
Puts Piglet's theories to sh*t as well this does.
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Post by bringbacktonykane on May 19, 2015 20:33:14 GMT
If this new offer has anything to do with Lynch then I think I'll start supporting Penrith. It's pathetic what is going on now. Cannot believe Nixon read the statement out to Lapping in full like a complete cnut. Sums up the way this club has been run for the past seven years and bizarrely I think they started out with the best intention these 'custodians' but they've genuinely deluded themselves to think that the everyone is against them.
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Post by notjimtolmie on May 19, 2015 20:33:18 GMT
So, is this a real expression of interest?? We could all guess JN wouldn't be easily persuaded to release power and, in fact, Laffy's new consortium money (aside from inspiring further pledges) wouldn't pay the costs far into 15-16 season. But change and modernisation, many of us would say, is worth its weight in gold, and too radical for the 3 owners. I hear Nixon was off chasing new investors (perhaps not modernisers tho) last week. Anyone know of who he approached? Philip Day of EWM the only one I heard was happening.
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Post by champagnesupernova on May 19, 2015 20:39:39 GMT
One thing I have to say...despite his association with Pattison and Nixon, I've still always had a lot of respect for Andrew Jenkins. Sadly, by placing himself front and centre of this disgusting charade, he'll have lost a lot of goodwill tonight that won't be easy for him to win back now.
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Post by spratty on May 19, 2015 20:41:58 GMT
How they can even say they have the clubs best interest at heart is beyond me.
Selfish c*nts.
What kind of reaction did they actually expect from fans?
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Post by mashiniblick on May 19, 2015 20:43:00 GMT
Hope Nixon's next sh!t's a hedgehog!
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Post by bruntonpete on May 19, 2015 20:45:08 GMT
Another thing to bear in mind is this. AL planned to set up a club in which investors with a vested interest would be welcomed on board. In other words, genuine people with money and the right intentions could be part of the club going forward whether this be local businessmen or wealthy individuals looking to invest and enjoy a football club. Genuine people could get on board this way and everyone would be happy.
Now, the club could pass to an individual or group with no local roots who have no interest in the area and have other motives. These potential investors might be genuine and keen to be involved but the way the people closest to the club get treated is nothing short of disgraceful.
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Post by stamfordblue on May 19, 2015 20:45:39 GMT
Just listened to the interview Laffy sounded dreadful totally deflated and rightly annoyed. To read a statement to him rather than man up is a total disgrace.
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Post by lufbrablue on May 19, 2015 20:49:48 GMT
my sceptical view is that this is down to blueyonder and them wanting a payoff when we sell the ground. Lapping has never seemed keen on the idea so they pull the plug now having used him as a convenient tool to quell the unrest til the end of season.
Nixon must be getting pressure from the developer. Also dread to think what rent they would sign us upto at a new ground.
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Post by bruntonpasty on May 19, 2015 20:52:57 GMT
my sceptical view is that this is down to blueyonder and them wanting a payoff when we sell the ground. Lapping has never seemed keen on the idea so they pull the plug now having used him as a convenient tool to quell the unrest til the end of season. Nixon must be getting pressure from the developer. Also dread to think what rent they would sign us upto at a new ground. This had occurred to me too. Isn't the lockout agreement up soon? Hmmmmm......... The cnuts are upto something!!!! and it won't be in our interests that is for sure!!! Not happy!!
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Post by champagnesupernova on May 19, 2015 20:55:25 GMT
If John Nixon actually thinks he can stay at the club after this, then I quite literally fear for his mental health. His position is completely and utterly untenable, the fans will boycott in droves (and may well bankrupt the club within weeks) if they scupper the best chance we've had to progress in years, and I actually think - and I never thought I would ever say this - that he could be about to overtake Knighton in the all time CUFC villain stakes. Mind blowing stuff.
At least Knighton was an 'outsider' so to speak, and could scuttle off back to Derbyshire when the heat was really on. Nixon is a local who's meant to have supported the club since he was 5 years old. I really hope for his own sake that he's having a good long think tonight about what he's possibly about to do.
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Post by sheffoblue on May 19, 2015 20:55:49 GMT
This has to be about Blue Yonder. Lapping probably not making the noises that Nixon wanted on the subject. It's his brain-child after all - he'll be determined to make it happen and in so doing, allow Jenkins to recoup his loans rather than have them converted to equity under Lapping's scheme.
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Post by mashiniblick on May 19, 2015 20:56:24 GMT
my sceptical view is that this is down to blueyonder and them wanting a payoff when we sell the ground. Lapping has never seemed keen on the idea so they pull the plug now having used him as a convenient tool to quell the unrest til the end of season. Nixon must be getting pressure from the developer. Also dread to think what rent they would sign us upto at a new ground. This is exactly what I 1st thought, I couldn't have put it any better. Somebody has got Nixon by the short & curlies.
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Post by sirjimmyglass on May 19, 2015 21:00:47 GMT
Just listened to the interview Laffy sounded dreadful totally deflated and rightly annoyed. To read a statement to him rather than man up is a total disgrace. Would we put it past the f.ucker to finish reading the statement, '+ END +' included, to just put the phone down? Or even "the board will not be making any further comment at this time."
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Post by crunchblue on May 19, 2015 21:04:57 GMT
The club says it's not making further comment on this.
Well they have to, they have to give fans something. With this explosion on here/twitter/Facebook/radio etc they can't say nothing for months/a year or however long it may take for any new investment (if there is any) to get finalised.
This board of directors keep excelling themselves. At first I thought they were just skint, then I thought they were just a bit behind the times, then I thought they were just incompetent, even as recently as last season I still didn't think they were deliberately trying to ruin the football club. Now I do, I think Nixon is another Knighton, but possibly worse. If he (and I know the statement is in AJ's name but we know it's Nixon) sabotages this Lapping bid and then this so called overseas investment doesn't come through, he'll never be able to set foot in Brunton park again unless he wants some Blackpool/Oyston scenes to deal with. I hope he sees sense.
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Post by knightonsavedus on May 19, 2015 21:06:43 GMT
Nixon and pattie are just a pair of c###s. I wish they'd feck off and leave this club. Stop looking out for yourselves and put the club first. Laffy must be fuming and I wouldn't blame him if he walked away
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Post by deckchairblue on May 19, 2015 21:38:33 GMT
Surely if a better offer has come in from another potential investor, the club has to listen to it. We don't know how long this offer has been on the table either.
Maybe they have waited until we are safe in the league before making a move.
All I can think is that this can't be a bad thing, how can having more than one party interested in getting the club be a bad thing ?
I think due to Lapping coming on here and winning the fans over he is painted as a knight in shining armour coming in to save the club, if that is true, why doesn't he wait the 3 weeks, if the club decides to say no thanks Andrew then he walks away, if not he invests and takes over.
But in reality he isn't going to happy of another investor has come in and stolen his prize, the same as if he was investing in any other company.
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Post by notjimtolmie on May 19, 2015 21:45:26 GMT
Evening all, here is where I'm at...in any walk of life I think it's important to treat people with respect, which I feel he [laffy] has treat everyone at the club with, it should work both ways. Ah Lummy, too many of us are trusting souls with proper manners. I'm afraid our suspicions about Nixon have been confirmed, but Jenkins is also being revealed as wanting to hang onto his power. Nothing perhaps wrong with getting max financial investment, nor looking for the most forward thinking planning models (and maybe Laffy could be challenged on this?) but heh ho,what about treating people with common decency, consulting and informing? Nixon not prepared to do this with millionaires (from East Stand) he certainly won't for Paddockites or WREers. God help you RC pundits Lummy. CUFC fans - as usual we are being s-hat on by the illustrious owners.
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Post by exiledjock on May 19, 2015 21:48:33 GMT
You'll not be so understanding when we have another crap summer of non existent signings because of off field shenanigans.
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Post by deckchairblue on May 19, 2015 21:49:01 GMT
Evening all, here is where I'm at...in any walk of life I think it's important to treat people with respect, which I feel he [laffy] has treat everyone at the club with, it should work both ways. Ah Lummy, too many of us are trusting souls with proper manners. I'm afraid our suspicions about Nixon have been confirmed, but Jenkins is also being revealed as wanting to hang onto his power. Nothing perhaps wrong with getting max financial investment, nor looking for the most forward thinking planning models (and maybe Laffy could be challenged on this?) but heh ho,what about treating people with common decency, consulting and informing? Nixon not prepared to do this with millionaires (from East Stand) he certainly won't for Paddockites or WREers. God help you RC pundits Lummy. CUFC fans - as usual we are being s-hat on by the illustrious owners. Nixon consults Lapping about the new offer, Lapping says no to it. how does that benefit the club ?
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Post by cayambe on May 19, 2015 21:55:44 GMT
Surely if a better offer has come in from another potential investor, the club has to listen to it. We don't know how long this offer has been on the table either. Maybe they have waited until we are safe in the league before making a move. All I can think is that this can't be a bad thing, how can having more than one party interested in getting the club be a bad thing ? I think due to Lapping coming on here and winning the fans over he is painted as a knight in shining armour coming in to save the club, if that is true, why doesn't he wait the 3 weeks, if the club decides to say no thanks Andrew then he walks away, if not he invests and takes over. But in reality he isn't going to happy of another investor has come in and stolen his prize, the same as if he was investing in any other company. Its all about trust and confidence. Tell me after all the crap of recent years are you still prepared to put your hand on your heart and say the present incumbents give a toss about the supporters. Would you wait 3 weeks after working over an extended period on the chance that the new deal will not be acceptable? In the same position I would wait - but the deal would be different and Nixon would be out of the door and Jenkins shares would be diluted. After the reason that there will be not much for player investment under the Lapping deal is the need to give 45 % of the shares to the current board. As Lapping stated on the radio - the £1.5 million that Jenkins put in has gone, it no longer exists. Should he really be compensated for bad business? Maybe he does not want shares but pennies for his pounds and a new deal might provide him with the chance of some repayment.
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Post by pacirv on May 19, 2015 21:56:43 GMT
Deckchair have to disagree the deal with Lapping was almost done to drop thus in at the 11th hour stinks. Why haven't these so called new investors come forwards earlier we need to go into next season with everything in place or the slide to obscurity will continue.
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Post by mullen103 on May 19, 2015 22:02:48 GMT
Surely if a better offer has come in from another potential investor, the club has to listen to it. We don't know how long this offer has been on the table either. Maybe they have waited until we are safe in the league before making a move. All I can think is that this can't be a bad thing, how can having more than one party interested in getting the club be a bad thing ? I think due to Lapping coming on here and winning the fans over he is painted as a knight in shining armour coming in to save the club, if that is true, why doesn't he wait the 3 weeks, if the club decides to say no thanks Andrew then he walks away, if not he invests and takes over. But in reality he isn't going to happy of another investor has come in and stolen his prize, the same as if he was investing in any other company. We will have to find out the details of this new supposed investment, even the trust don't know the identity it's only speculation it's foreign. The issue is 100% the way it's been handled. We've had interviews and appointed a previous successful MD all going swimmingly and more importantly the club had the supporters on side for the first time in years. As Lapping said he was working with the club he didn't want a hostile takeover that is now scuppered. He was doing this because this is his club. The supporters were getting on board with this new deal. It maybe isn't a bottomless pot of money but it was a sensible business plan with successful driven people driving the club forward. Now with this statements it says a hidden agenda to me 100% it's also worrying it's times as what happens in 5 years??? The current board Wouod not entertain this if it wasn't for them bot wanting Lappings deal and a hidden agenda. We had everything set up for a successful season now I fear we are well and truly buggered.
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