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Post by kangshung on Jun 12, 2015 22:09:49 GMT
On behalf of the board is like to apologise to the family for any ill feeling and also offer my warmest thanks for the excellent job their old man has done over the past few years. So what you're saying is 'thanks, now feck off'?
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Post by gateswasgod on Jun 12, 2015 22:20:56 GMT
I think few on here question our 'Caretakers' love of the club.
As pointed out further up this thread, had we had people with vision at the helm then AJ for example would probably be remembered fondly for his long and loyal service as an active and passionate local man on the board. I think he's just exhausted all his ideas, he'd love CUFC to be European Champs as much as the rest of us but its all going seriously wrong.
Oh, and if any family member is worried about their inheritance... here's a thought. why not try making your own way in this world ?
Sadly the words 'Vultures' and 'hovering' spring to mind
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Post by ibogaine on Jun 12, 2015 22:26:29 GMT
Just a simple thank you for guiding us from the verge of the championship to non-league.
I think most fans are aware that Jenkins has bankrolled us for the past few years. But to expect our gratitude after (a) presiding over the last few years of utter failure and misery and (b) doing all he can to scupper new investment, he has more than undone any good work.
If his kids want to keep their dads money to invest in Ivory backscratchers then I'd be just as happy as them for Daddy J to step aside
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Post by Paddockgremlin on Jun 12, 2015 22:53:50 GMT
i struggle to see how I need to be careful for what I wish for......because all I wish for, regarding the club, is for Lapping and his investment plans to go ahead.
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Post by khg on Jun 12, 2015 23:08:43 GMT
How is it that a "family member" can tell you what's going on and you in turn can tell the world via the internet yet Nixon and/or Jenkins can't release a statement to fans explaining this?
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Post by bluebry on Jun 12, 2015 23:13:30 GMT
How is it that a "family member" can tell you what's going on and you in turn can tell the world via the internet yet Nixon and/or Jenkins can't release a statement to fans explaining this? Probably because he would get ripped to shreds as the poster that started this thread has done.
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Post by Cumbrianblue on Jun 12, 2015 23:22:08 GMT
why dont they use potts money where did you get that pic of my dog? got 3 of the buggas i'm refraining from commenting on threads...might get a ban if i gobbed off.
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Post by dentonholmersimpson on Jun 12, 2015 23:33:33 GMT
why dont they use potts money where did you get that pic of my dog? got 3 of the buggas i'm refraining from commenting on threads...might get a ban if i gobbed off.
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Post by dentonholmersimpson on Jun 12, 2015 23:38:18 GMT
I am keeping my own counsel on affairs at BP, I have no inside knowledge of anything but if ( may be a big if 1 in 100 chance ) in 2 to 3 months time whatever deal transpires is for the long term betterment of the club there are going to be some posters on here that are going to look really stupid.
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Post by kangshung on Jun 12, 2015 23:44:32 GMT
I am keeping my own counsel on affairs at BP, I have no inside knowledge of anything but if ( may be a big if 1 in 100 chance ) in 2 to 3 months time whatever deal transpires is for the long term betterment of the club there are going to be some posters on here that are going to look really stupid. No sh1t. Most of us look like daft tw@ts already.
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Post by feckwittery on Jun 12, 2015 23:45:18 GMT
IF <-----IFSay what you see.
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Post by dentonholmersimpson on Jun 12, 2015 23:46:36 GMT
I am keeping my own counsel on affairs at BP, I have no inside knowledge of anything but if ( may be a big if 1 in 100 chance ) in 2 to 3 months time whatever deal transpires is for the long term betterment of the club there are going to be some posters on here that are going to look really stupid. No sh1t. Most of us look like daft tw@ts already. You said it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2015 23:52:27 GMT
What are we supposed to be thankful for? Running the club into the ground for a second time? If he did a better job maybe he wouldn't have had to put so much of his own money into it - thats the price you pay if you want to run the club and make a complete hash of it. Even if a magical billionaire appears - it doesnt change the fact that AJ and JN have done a terrible, terrible job of running CUFC. He and Nixon had the chance to get out and sell to Lapping but decided not to. No sympathy whatsoever. Goodwill towards AJ is rapidly running out if it hasn't already.
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Post by harrabyblue on Jun 12, 2015 23:58:04 GMT
If it is his boy he ain't a bad lad, so you can understand him wanting to defend his dad,hopefully aj is doing this for the good of the club,to be fair to parklands he is only passing on what he has heard...a snippet if you like,something needs to happen for the sake of everyone,and soon.
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Post by mashiniblick on Jun 13, 2015 0:05:40 GMT
No beef with parklands at all, fair play to him for coming on here and giving us more information in one single post than we've had from the club in 3 month!
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Post by Cumbrianblue on Jun 13, 2015 0:07:22 GMT
and still...some defend them wake up.... deleted what i typed
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Post by dentonholmersimpson on Jun 13, 2015 0:08:12 GMT
If it is his boy he ain't a bad lad, so you can understand him wanting to defend his dad,hopefully aj is doing this for the good of the club,to be fair to parklands he is only passing on what he has heard...a snippet if you like,something needs to happen for the sake of everyone,and soon. Absolutely right, the silence from BP is deafening and that adds to fans frustrations, every day that goes by we here more rumours, gossip and conspiracy theories which may or may not be true. I want evidence, cold hard facts before I pass judgement on the goings on at my club, that is not siding with the BOD, if the more radical views on here are correct I will be first in line wanting JN strung up from the Waterworks floodlights,until then it is only right to keep an open mind.
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Post by harrabyblue on Jun 13, 2015 0:12:22 GMT
I ain't defending them cumbrianblue,but you can understand a bloke wanting to defend his dad,personally Jenkins should have left 15 year ago.
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Post by dentonholmersimpson on Jun 13, 2015 0:20:38 GMT
I ain't defending them cumbrianblue,but you can understand a bloke wanting to defend his dad,personally Jenkins should have left 15 year ago. I maybe wrong but under MK, JC and Fred, AJ has been honuary chairman or something like that, in other words not much say in the running of the club just recognition for his long term support, however when these people left the club, at times has had to dig into his pockets to keep the club going. Forget the other 2 but does that deserve the **** he is now getting.
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Post by blightyblue on Jun 13, 2015 1:00:20 GMT
Jenkins just needs to f uck off, him and his clan.
someone got scared of losing the family jewels methinks.
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Post by elephantstone on Jun 13, 2015 6:03:25 GMT
Looks like we've got serious contenders for the delusion and biggest liar world cups on our BOD s
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Post by whytakemypostcode on Jun 13, 2015 6:26:04 GMT
The whole point of Lapping's proposal was to remove financial burdon from Jenkin's, yet at the last possible minute, in the most disgusting fashion possible, he effectively told him to stick it. No sympathy.
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Post by walwynlegend on Jun 13, 2015 7:16:57 GMT
Guys , I thought long and hard whether to make the post as I knew it could divide opinion, but for me the over riding aspect was family , something that means a great deal to me as the father of 3 girls, he was just making, in my opinion a passionate defence of his family , surely that is not to be derided putting aside any CUFC issues parklands31 and Jenkins family if you read through replies to your post opinion is only divided between a majority who have had enough of the way the club has been incompetently and dishonourably run with what appears disdain for it's supporters and a minority who live in hope it will get better but are also losing patience.
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Post by champagnesupernova on Jun 13, 2015 7:24:28 GMT
I had a little affection for Jenkins but after recent events he needs to go as soon as possible. ...It's easy walk away and accept Lappings deal and we will be self sufficient that we don't need to rely on anybody. Simple business. Mullen's got this spot on. Like a lot of people, I fully appreciate what the old boy's done for the club over the years, and had laffy's takeover gone through would have loved to have seen him stay on in some role as recognition for this. However...... His decision to choose to help Nixon and Pattison cling onto their little power trip, and especially to place himself front and centre in Nixon's 'fake millionaire' debacle, is truly appalling, and an astonishing lack of judgement. Andrew Lapping's proposals would have given this club a fighting chance of standing on its own two feet, and to stop being the laughing stock of football, for the first time in years. Anyone in a position of power, who chooses to willingly torpedo an opportunity like that - just to help a couple of leeches cling on to the dying remains of our club - is going to have to realise they're not exactly going to be thanked for it.
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Post by gundog on Jun 13, 2015 7:53:34 GMT
Firstly I think it is sad you have betrayed a confidence, especially on here. Make no mistake, you would have no Carlisle United without Andrew Jenkins. Personally I don't think he's either dynamic or pro-active enough for the way clubs are expected to be these days and it would be better if he took a back seat, I think he knows that himself. Things are not good at Brunton Park, the club has been allowed to stagnate and the present regime have to take full responsibility - however AJ absolutely does not deserve some of the moronic comments churned out on here on a daily basis and if I were his family the last thing I would be doing with my money would be to chuck it in to the hat to keep a few dozen neanderthals happy. For the record I am no Fan of John Nixon either and the sooner he steps aside to join yet another committee the better, but likewise, the level of personal abuse aimed at him on here is quite frankly appalling. In conclusion I am not SP or anyone connected with the club, I am as unhappy and frustrated as everyone else and if this offends anyone -tough.
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Post by jumpforfun on Jun 13, 2015 8:08:17 GMT
I think gundog sums up my feelings on this one.
Mr Jenkins has been a long standing benefactor of the club and while we don't all agree with decisions or how the club has been run, I don't think there's many, other than the really thick, who think there would still be a league club in Carlisle without his support.
The issue now is completely different than the ones 2 years ago. A deal was done, investors lined up and a feel good factor returning for the first time since Simmo guided us up the league.
I only hope to god that there actually is a suitable investor with a better offer and the long term stability the club desperately needs.
If it is all smoke and bullshit then I'm afraid I've no sympathy left for him.
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Post by bruntonpete on Jun 13, 2015 8:08:48 GMT
Am I one of the few that thinks there are no conspiracy theories and that these chaps aren't in it for the big money payout or whatever? I think they may even be talking to someone with money and plans that could be worth listening to. I'm not saying anything will come of it but it might. What annoys me is the total disregard for the thoughts of the customers throughout all of this and the unforgivable way certain other people have been treated. It is bad management and bad customer service. AJ is a really nice genuine guy but he has been part of this mistreatment of others purely because of the role he is in not because of the man. He has put himself in this position of responsibility and allowed others to damage his reputation.
I wish him well and I hope, after this debacle, he comes out the other end and we can recognise the good things he has done over the decades.
If they wanted out that desperately , they could have worked with AL and this new guy with money and ended up with a much much better ran club with a happy fanbase and exciting times ahead. But, in typical cufc fashion, they do their best to burst the bubble before it is even inflated.
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Post by whytakemypostcode on Jun 13, 2015 8:22:57 GMT
I imagine the abuse will get a lot stronger if the new season starts with business as usual at BP!
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Post by CUFCDeano on Jun 13, 2015 8:44:54 GMT
Lets cut out any of the personal abuse on here please.
The biggest problem I have is that Andrew Lapping's proposal would have sorted out the financial situation, and Andrew Jenkins would have got some of his money back. The money Andrew Jenkins has been throwing at the club in recent years would not have been needed (or not as much) had the club been ran properly.
I really hope that there is another potential investor that they are in talks with, and who knows they could be 10x better than the Andrew Lapping proposal, but if not, I think they're going to be in for a hell of a lot of criticism at every game.
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Post by mojo on Jun 13, 2015 8:57:38 GMT
Lets cut out any of the personal abuse on here please. The biggest problem I have is that Andrew Lapping's proposal would have sorted out the financial situation, and Andrew Jenkins would have got some of his money back. The money Andrew Jenkins has been throwing at the club in recent years would not have been needed (or not as much) had the club been ran properly. as i see it, with laffys proposal, the door wasn't shut on further investment, so once the club was seen to be on a sound footing then surely it would be infinitely more marketable and a safer investment risk than it is now. or am i seeing it wrong?
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