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Post by bejustandfearprokas on Dec 27, 2013 13:59:31 GMT
Sacked.
Unbelievable Jeff.
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Post by bluealf on Dec 27, 2013 14:24:12 GMT
Well not really with all that has gone on there this season, maybe we should be careful what we wish for lol
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Post by bejust on Dec 27, 2013 14:26:02 GMT
Is having a transfer window for managers a viable option?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2013 15:53:38 GMT
Biggest non surprise of the season so far.
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Post by mojo on Dec 27, 2013 16:00:18 GMT
at least he gets his cash. i'd do the same. wouldn't walk away from the compo.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2013 16:01:06 GMT
which is why we are still paying Abbott.
That could have been Lawrence.
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Post by superblueabbott on Dec 28, 2013 10:19:04 GMT
No surprise at all and that the new boss will Have a lot of funds to spend.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2013 11:29:27 GMT
What psychopath would take that on though? It could only be unknown puppet from Malaysia. Very surprised if it isnt.
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Post by superblueabbott on Dec 28, 2013 15:00:47 GMT
apparently ole gunnar solskjaer is being lined up.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2013 16:23:49 GMT
If you are really you, perhaps a sneaky £5 bet is in order..
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Post by almostblueheaven on Dec 28, 2013 19:21:29 GMT
The League Managers Association should man up here and say non of our members will apply for this job and anyone from outside who takes it will not be admitted thereby ruling out 90% of the possible candidates.
Once a club reaches the Prem there is no need to have people like Tan and the guy at Hull involved and clubs in the championship should start to take notice of whats hapening there before they sell out to foreign C u n t s for his cash just to chase the premiership dream and the fit and proper person test should involve a 3 year probationary period and if for no other reason than this whatever their failings in other areas The Trust could stop this ever happening at B.P.and i challenge anyone to say that thats not a bad thing.
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Post by zoney on Dec 28, 2013 19:36:06 GMT
The Trust could stop this ever happening at B.P.and i challenge anyone to say that thats not a bad thing. The trust will stop anyone from taking over the blues full stop end of story
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Post by almostblueheaven on Dec 28, 2013 20:49:56 GMT
The Trust could stop this ever happening at B.P.and i challenge anyone to say that thats not a bad thing. The trust will stop anyone from taking over the blues full stop end of story In your veiw maybe But as was said recently theyve never been asked to put it to the test since they took their fit and proper person veto rights There are still potential owners around who see trusts as a good thing as J.C. did. And in Carlisles case if for no other reason than its 25 % of the Club you dont have to buy And i think you.ll find that its the sceptre of the local builder thats the problem and not the presence of the Trust And someone who its common knowledge showed an interest not long ago is said to have had an interesting plan that involved taking control with the assistance of the Trust and Jenkins yet it came to nothing. So ask yourself why if it didnt even get as far as the Trust and yet that person supposedly has a bottomless pit to keep bailing the club out yet its said he turned down all his loans being repaid and a good sum for just over half of his shares and to continue as chairman. Why would anyone in his position in their right mind turn it down unless of course he wasnt actually in a position to accept in the first place.
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Post by zoney on Dec 28, 2013 23:08:09 GMT
The trust will stop anyone from taking over the blues full stop end of story In your veiw maybe But as was said recently theyve never been asked to put it to the test since they took their fit and proper person veto rights There are still potential owners around who see trusts as a good thing as J.C. did. And in Carlisles case if for no other reason than its 25 % of the Club you dont have to buy And i think you.ll find that its the sceptre of the local builder thats the problem and not the presence of the Trust And someone who its common knowledge showed an interest not long ago is said to have had an interesting plan that involved taking control with the assistance of the Trust and Jenkins yet it came to nothing. So ask yourself why if it didnt even get as far as the Trust and yet that person supposedly has a bottomless pit to keep bailing the club out yet its said he turned down all his loans being repaid and a good sum for just over half of his shares and to continue as chairman. Why would anyone in his position in their right mind turn it down unless of course he wasnt actually in a position to accept in the first place. The local builder from what i remember didnt have any problems with the trust until they started costing the club money through court cases !!!!!!!! I did hear about one person trying to buy the club who does have the money to back it up but the trust wouldnt move a good thing i dont no after hearing a few things about the guy who was going to buy the club . As of late theres been one or maybe 2 people thinking about buying the club but the names that were mentioned i cant see it as ones more a rugby fan and the other was a ex prem footballer who are good friends
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Post by fbg on Dec 29, 2013 1:29:39 GMT
The trust have already put the kybosh on at least three takeovers. One of which was right.
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Post by almostblueheaven on Dec 29, 2013 1:58:43 GMT
In your veiw maybe But as was said recently theyve never been asked to put it to the test since they took their fit and proper person veto rights There are still potential owners around who see trusts as a good thing as J.C. did. And in Carlisles case if for no other reason than its 25 % of the Club you dont have to buy And i think you.ll find that its the sceptre of the local builder thats the problem and not the presence of the Trust And someone who its common knowledge showed an interest not long ago is said to have had an interesting plan that involved taking control with the assistance of the Trust and Jenkins yet it came to nothing. So ask yourself why if it didnt even get as far as the Trust and yet that person supposedly has a bottomless pit to keep bailing the club out yet its said he turned down all his loans being repaid and a good sum for just over half of his shares and to continue as chairman. Why would anyone in his position in their right mind turn it down unless of course he wasnt actually in a position to accept in the first place. The local builder from what i remember didnt have any problems with the trust until they started costing the club money through court cases !!!!!!!! I did hear about one person trying to buy the club who does have the money to back it up but the trust wouldnt move a good thing i dont no after hearing a few things about the guy who was going to buy the club . As of late theres been one or maybe 2 people thinking about buying the club but the names that were mentioned i cant see it as ones more a rugby fan and the other was a ex prem footballer who are good friends I think you.ll find the court case was between The Trust and the local builder and didnt really have anything to do with the club and it was the local builder who decided the club should defend it and not him personally and eventually did stump up when the judge told him to he paid for his side and not the club. Which i think was what made him spit his dummy out not long after. And the club did benefit or at least they should of done when the land was sold for over 100 grand. The only loser was J.C. who despite agreeing to write off over 3 million quid to allow the builder to take over got shafted for the one thing that he wanted from the deal [ and once again why do you think he wanted that land if not as a way of protecting the clubs interests against the builders development plans ] sort of blowing out of the water the theory that he wouldnt of got permission to build there at the time.
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Post by almostblueheaven on Dec 29, 2013 2:22:23 GMT
"The local builder from what i remember didnt have any problems with the trust until they started costing the club money through court cases !!!!!!!!"
You really are joking arent you he started messing with the trusts deal negotiated with J.C. [ Which they had already agreed to reduce from the original deal once to help J.C. out dont forget ] on the very day he took over trying to dilute it and make it less effective and went hell for leather to try to lose the veto just a good job Alan Steele and others stood up to him.
"I did hear about one person trying to buy the club who does have the money to back it up but the trust wouldnt move a good thing i dont no after hearing a few things about the guy who was going to buy the club ".
Well if you think that the trust will ever give up their shareholding and rights to any prospective purchaser and thats what you mean by "wouldnt move" then i.m afraid your sadly deluded because if for no other reason their constitution and affiliation to Supporters Direct doesnt allow them to and they wouldnt be doing the job they were put there to do if they did.
Any future purchaser will have to be willing to work with the Trust as well as passing their fit proper and suitable veto test and long may it be so as our protection from the likes of a Mr Vincent Tan.
There are plenty of people like me who see the Premiership and Sky and all it stands for as a major evil and think its somthing English football would be better off without and i would rather see us playing in the conference than take the money of an A R S E H O L E like Tan to go chasing it.
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Post by almostblueheaven on Dec 29, 2013 2:49:31 GMT
The trust have already put the kybosh on at least three takeovers. One of which was right. Maybe you should keep a bit more up to date The wording below is from a recent press release from The Trust do you really think if it were not true the Clubs board would have had somthing to say on the matter as no doubt would Supporters Direct in response to the numerous complaints about it they would recieve not to mention they would lose all credibility and look very silly should one of the takeover parties decide to go public so i think that unless you have evidence to back up your story i.ll just take it that it was just more of the crap that circulates around the city between games when people like you have nothing else to talk about. "There has been no official direct approach to the United Trust from any potential investor in Carlisle United in all of the Trust’s 12 year existence. The United Trust’s board stance if an offer were to be received would be to approach it in the correct and professional business manner, assess the details and if the offer was too good to refuse then put their backing behind it."
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Post by zoney on Dec 29, 2013 2:55:27 GMT
Any future purchaser will have to be willing to work with the Trust as well as passing their fit proper and suitable veto test and long may it be so as our protection from the likes of a Mr Vincent Tan. There are plenty of people like me who see the Premiership and Sky and all it stands for as a major evil and think its somthing English football would be better off without and i would rather see us playing in the conference than take the money of an A R S E H O L E like Tan to go chasing it. I agree with what you say about Mr Tan(FGB in disguise ?? lol) But on the other hand since the trust was formed the only time they have put money or raised money for the club was from a large donation end of story there and also the fact they say that a member of the trust can only sit on the board of the club for 3 years before been reelected etc it seem mr steele has been there for a very long time (well over 3 years) and no announcement from the trust or should we call them the FREE MASONS as they seem to be very secretive which for someone looking in from the out side you can see why a lot of fans call it the MISTRUST
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Post by almostblueheaven on Dec 29, 2013 12:32:54 GMT
Any future purchaser will have to be willing to work with the Trust as well as passing their fit proper and suitable veto test and long may it be so as our protection from the likes of a Mr Vincent Tan. There are plenty of people like me who see the Premiership and Sky and all it stands for as a major evil and think its somthing English football would be better off without and i would rather see us playing in the conference than take the money of an A R S E H O L E like Tan to go chasing it. I agree with what you say about Mr Tan(FGB in disguise ?? lol) But on the other hand since the trust was formed the only time they have put money or raised money for the club was from a large donation end of story there and also the fact they say that a member of the trust can only sit on the board of the club for 3 years before been reelected etc it seem mr steele has been there for a very long time (well over 3 years) and no announcement from the trust or should we call them the FREE MASONS as they seem to be very secretive which for someone looking in from the out side you can see why a lot of fans call it the MISTRUST Nobody is saying they have put any more money in or indeed should have to its not how the Trust thing works. The way the Trust at B.P. has worked out is not ideal but thats what happens when a trust comes up against an owner who doesnt believe in the whole ethos of the supporter owned club movement. The trust used to save the club a considerable amount of money each matchday by manning the ticket booths etc and were gearing up to take over the whole matchday operation on a no cost basis until a certain owner decided that they wernt needed anymore. I think you.ll find that the trust removed from their constitution a while back the need to elect a new board member after 3 years somthing they had every right to do and somthing that the club board dont seem to have had a problem with as it seems that they feel they can work with the current incumbant rather than say the likes of his brother.And his situation regarding what he did with the loan of the extra 50k makes his situation a little unique. And i dont think that you can argue with the fact that they are now doing everything they can to be more open and accessable. But what i find amazing is that no matter how many people have moaned about the Trust over the years no one has ever orchestrated a mass joining and coup etc or even why the two Martins walked away having got themselves into a position to effect change. So no its not been a smooth ride but believe me fan ownership wether it be by the Spanish, German or even our own unique British model is the only way to go.
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