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Post by CCU on Jun 11, 2015 20:34:36 GMT
With only Asamoah yet to commit, lets look at how we're shaping up - Unwanted in Red Italics!
GK:
Gillespie, Hanford.
DEF:
Miller, Atkinson, Raynes, Buddle, Grainger, Brough, Troy, CMW.
MID:
Kennedy, Joyce, Dempsey, Hamell, Dicker, Sweeney, Kearns, Griffith.
STR:
Wyke, Rigg, Paynter, Beck.
So 22, but of those 8 are unwanted. Can't see us being able to bring too many more in without moving some out?
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Post by valhalladancehall on Jun 11, 2015 20:39:28 GMT
One thing that shows is a distinct lack of pace and width.
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Post by happyblue on Jun 11, 2015 20:40:49 GMT
Looking at that squad at this current moment the most important position to sign is a winger who can also play up front and a target man.
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Post by beefsister on Jun 11, 2015 20:44:23 GMT
I'm afraid that squad has relegation battle written all over it.
We really need an experienced centre back not young unproven kids, we need a couple of wingers and an experienced target man.
I'm not convinced by Curle's recruitment thus far.
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Post by CCU on Jun 11, 2015 20:45:09 GMT
Of the 14 wanted, not much experience, only really Grainger and Kennedy classed as. Gillespie, Raynes and Joyce next most experienced...
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Post by cocaineblues on Jun 11, 2015 20:48:23 GMT
Got to say dan, I wouldn't have Gillespie down as a player on that list just yet.
I can't be the only who thinks the club putting all over twitter that he's 'text us to say he'll sign his contract' may just come back to haunt us? I could be entirely wrong like, but you just never know do you...
Putting 2 + 2 together here and merely speculating, Potts, Gillespie and Dempsey all been on holiday with eachother. I'd say they'll have had a chat about their futures etc
They've came back, Potts has gone, there's crack about Dempsey being in talks with other clubs and Gillespie has text the club saying 'aye I'll sign your contract lads, see you's in a bit'
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Post by valhalladancehall on Jun 11, 2015 20:53:29 GMT
Got to say dan, I wouldn't have Gillespie down as a player on that list just yet. I can't be the only who thinks the club putting all over twitter that he's 'text us to say he'll sign his contract' may just come back to haunt us? I could be entirely wrong like, but you just never know do you...Putting 2 + 2 together here and merely speculating, Potts, Gillespie and Dempsey all been on holiday with eachother. I'd say they'll have had a chat about their futures etc They've came back, Potts has gone, there's crack about Dempsey being in talks with other clubs and Gillespie has text the club saying 'aye I'll sign your contract lads, see you's in a bit' If it was another player I'd probably agree but the impression I get is that Gillespie's a good lad and not the kind to pull a trick on the club. |
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Post by CCU on Jun 11, 2015 20:53:54 GMT
Know what you mean, thought has crossed my mind...
Gillespie been our No.1 for 3 seasons now pal, hence why I named in second bracket...
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Post by cocaineblues on Jun 11, 2015 20:55:37 GMT
Got to say dan, I wouldn't have Gillespie down as a player on that list just yet. I can't be the only who thinks the club putting all over twitter that he's 'text us to say he'll sign his contract' may just come back to haunt us? I could be entirely wrong like, but you just never know do you...Putting 2 + 2 together here and merely speculating, Potts, Gillespie and Dempsey all been on holiday with eachother. I'd say they'll have had a chat about their futures etc They've came back, Potts has gone, there's crack about Dempsey being in talks with other clubs and Gillespie has text the club saying 'aye I'll sign your contract lads, see you's in a bit' If it was another player I'd probably agree but the impression I get is that Gillespie's a good lad and not the kind to pull a trick on the club. Aye I've been clinging on to that thought too valhalla, but nowt would surprise me with cufc these days! |
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Post by crunchblue on Jun 11, 2015 21:51:08 GMT
Looking okay defensively, especially if one of CMW and Troy stays.
There's a real lack of attacking threat, especially when Dempsey goes.
Taking out Potts and Dempsey takes away 2 big goal threats. Attack minded players and some pace has to be the priority now.
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Post by daviejones on Jun 11, 2015 21:57:52 GMT
I just hope the Potts money is reinvested and doesn't get lost in the owners' pockets. I'm guessing we've got somewhere around £200k and that could go a long way on a winger.
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Post by bruntonpete on Jun 11, 2015 21:59:28 GMT
Looking okay defensively, especially if one of CMW and Troy stays. There's a real lack of attacking threat, especially when Dempsey goes. Taking out Potts and Dempsey takes away 2 big goal threats. Attack minded players and some pace has to be the priority now. Taking out Potts and Dempsey takes out THE goal threat I haven't felt this underwhelmed in years. Only really good news can change that now. |
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Post by harrabyblue on Jun 11, 2015 21:59:58 GMT
No fuuckin chance of that is there !
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Post by daviejones on Jun 11, 2015 22:06:06 GMT
Let's not get worked up about Dempsey yet, all we've got is a rumour or two...
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Post by NoLongerMouldy on Jun 11, 2015 23:17:35 GMT
Let's not get worked up about Dempsey yet, all we've got is a rumour or two... Mullen said it though... |
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Post by montevideoblue on Jun 12, 2015 0:30:36 GMT
How good is Hamell?
Defence seems to be sorted, I suspect we will see either Troy or cmw stay.
Never thought I'd say it but amoo is the type of player we now need, pace, eye for a goal.
Good spine of the team for next season, Gillespie raynes grainger brough miller Atkinson Kennedy Joyce rigg wyke - we need to add creativity and pace though.
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Post by nobbyblue on Jun 12, 2015 7:21:07 GMT
That's looking like the worst squad I've seen for years.
We'll need at least two or three forward thinking players and the defence doesn't look that great!
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Post by wukkie on Jun 12, 2015 13:12:50 GMT
It's a good job it's early June as that has relegation scrap written all over it. Underwhelming.
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Post by crunchblue on Jun 12, 2015 16:25:20 GMT
So do ppl think we were wrong to release and list the players we did?
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Post by crunchblue on Jun 12, 2015 16:26:19 GMT
If we don't get rid of the listed players, they may still play. O'Hanlon and Sweeney were listed for most of last season but still played a lot of games.
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Post by oldhamblue on Jun 12, 2015 21:28:46 GMT
I just hope the Potts money is reinvested and doesn't get lost in the owners' pockets. I'm guessing we've got somewhere around £200k and that could go a long way on a winger. Ducks as pig flies overhead |
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Post by montevideoblue on Jun 13, 2015 2:42:23 GMT
That's looking like the worst squad I've seen for years. We'll need at least two or three forward thinking players and the defence doesn't look that great! Not sure if I'd agree with that. We had 3 seasons where we conceded bucket loads of goals, cruel has signed 3 defenders and 2 hard working cm's, with Gillespie looking to resign we should have stability in defence and cm which should see the number of goals dramatically reduce. We we have goals scorers in rigg and wyke, if we manage to keep Dempsey and sign another striker and a couple of wingers we have the makings of a good team. curles not finished his transfers for the summer so we just gotta wait and see. Must say despite the departure of Potts and rumours with Dempsey I think we've the spine of a competitive league 2 team. Add in a coupe of wingers and another striker and we could have a top 10 team, keep Dempsey and we've the makings of a playoff team. |
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Post by champions95 on Jun 13, 2015 7:00:31 GMT
Not sure if I'd agree with that. We had 3 seasons where we conceded bucket loads of goals, cruel has signed 3 defenders and 2 hard working cm's, with Gillespie looking to resign we should have stability in defence and cm which should see the number of goals dramatically reduce. We we have goals scorers in rigg and wyke, if we manage to keep Dempsey and sign another striker and a couple of wingers we have the makings of a good team. curles not finished his transfers for the summer so we just gotta wait and see. Must say despite the departure of Potts and rumours with Dempsey I think we've the spine of a competitive league 2 team. Add in a coupe of wingers and another striker and we could have a top 10 team, keep Dempsey and we've the makings of a playoff team. There's a lot of assumptions going on here. I've never seen Raynes or Miller play and I guess most of us are in the same boat. They good be good signings, they could be crap. Personally didn't rate Joyce 7-8 years ago but apparently he has developed. Everyone's guessing as to the preferred formation and what KC is intending to do with his new signings. There's also the issue of consistency - you are assuming that anyone who had a good season last time round, such as Rigg, is going to push on next season which we all know doesn't always happen. |
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Post by montevideoblue on Jun 13, 2015 7:14:37 GMT
Not sure if I'd agree with that. We had 3 seasons where we conceded bucket loads of goals, cruel has signed 3 defenders and 2 hard working cm's, with Gillespie looking to resign we should have stability in defence and cm which should see the number of goals dramatically reduce. We we have goals scorers in rigg and wyke, if we manage to keep Dempsey and sign another striker and a couple of wingers we have the makings of a good team. curles not finished his transfers for the summer so we just gotta wait and see. Must say despite the departure of Potts and rumours with Dempsey I think we've the spine of a competitive league 2 team. Add in a coupe of wingers and another striker and we could have a top 10 team, keep Dempsey and we've the makings of a playoff team. There's a lot of assumptions going on here. I've never seen Raynes or Miller play and I guess most of us are in the same boat. They good be good signings, they could be crap. Personally didn't rate Joyce 7-8 years ago but apparently he has developed. Everyone's guessing as to the preferred formation and what KC is intending to do with his new signings. There's also the issue of consistency - you are assuming that anyone who had a good season last time round, such as Rigg, is going to push on next season which we all know doesn't always happen. While I see your point, between them raynes Kennedy and Joyce had 799 league starts, so they must if nothing else have great league 2 experience and know what to expect in this league. Miller is highly rated at Lincoln add in the fact he's a rb, which is something we have not had in a couple of seasons, further development of brough and things have to look positive. Hopefully Gillespie finally has a lucky break and gets an injury free season to show his worth. Atkinson has the makings of a good player too. Key for now though is too offload fringe players and bring in the wingers and striker we need. And obviously retain Dempsey. |
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Post by jumpforfun on Jun 13, 2015 7:56:31 GMT
I think if Curle will play some of the unwanted we'd do ok - Troy, Dicker and Paynter are experienced and can do a good job. Troy in particular is quality.
Worried about our attacking options as I think Beck and Assamoah are not really good enough to help us push on.
If Dempsey leaves then we may as well abandon hope of anything other than lower mid table.
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Post by CUFCDeano on Jun 13, 2015 7:59:35 GMT
If the CF we've supposedly got lined up is correct, then he could prove to be a good addition to the team. Very experienced, with a lot of games under his belt in League 1 having been there since 2006. Also previous experienced of League 2 as well. Not a huge goalscorer, he'd probably be looking at 10 goals a season at League 2 you'd hope, but as a target man you'd hope Rigg or Wyke would feed off him well.
Edit: Interesting to read the post from Parklands saying that additional funds are required to bring him here. If we can offload Beck and not bother about Asamoah, then the wages saved there should go some way to helping.
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Post by exiledjock on Jun 13, 2015 8:05:22 GMT
Keith Cruel - brill. #autocorrect
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Post by bluealf on Jun 13, 2015 8:30:31 GMT
I think if Curle will play some of the unwanted we'd do ok - Troy, Dicker and Paynter are experienced and can do a good job. Troy in particular is quality. Worried about our attacking options as I think Beck and Assamoah are not really good enough to help us push on. If Dempsey leaves then we may as well abandon hope of anything other than lower mid table. What has Paynter shown in the last 2 years for somebody still to be including him in a "they could still do a job category" ? I didn't like Dicker but could maybe see why others would, for me he was slow ponderous and at times uninterested and he was quick to blame others around him and that was jus tthe Luton game, he showed a little more in some games but that was all. Troy I would agree with but if a maanger is looking to build a consistent team chopping and changing your centre halfs every game does not help. |
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Post by crunchblue on Jun 13, 2015 8:54:08 GMT
If the CF we've supposedly got lined up is correct, then he could prove to be a good addition to the team. Very experienced, with a lot of games under his belt in League 1 having been there since 2006. Also previous experienced of League 2 as well. Not a huge goalscorer, he'd probably be looking at 10 goals a season at League 2 you'd hope, but as a target man you'd hope Rigg or Wyke would feed off him well. Edit: Interesting to read the post from Parklands saying that additional funds are required to bring him here. If we can offload Beck and not bother about Asamoah, then the wages saved there should go some way to helping. Based on that, I'm guessing Jabo Ibehre. |
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Post by rsblue on Jun 13, 2015 9:19:03 GMT
I just hope the Potts money is reinvested and doesn't get lost in the owners' pockets. I'm guessing we've got somewhere around £200k and that could go a long way on a winger. Ducks as pig flies overhead You forget that money is to keep our MD in power! |
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