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Post by oldhamblue on Jun 6, 2015 16:49:53 GMT
All the more reason to be banging on doors down at Brunton Park more! As a board member the Trust should not be kept in the dark. Obviously the directors do not see the Trust as part of the group. As a trust do you believe this new investor is real with some sort of proof, if not you backed Andrew Lappings plans, back him more! If you cannot do anything there is no point of the trust as the fans have no say! Doors are being banged. Mr Nixon is on holiday and out the country for 2 weeks now, so chances of any news within the next 2 weeks I imagine will be slim. I completely agree with you though, that the Trust should not be kept in the dark. Other board members, and Norman Steel himself agree that they should not be kept in the dark. This is I'm not a Trust board member so can't answer the question about the new investor, other than giving my own opinion as a supporter of CUFC and regular member of the Trust. I personally don't think there is another investor. I think this is all a ploy and they're hoping that Andrew Lapping pulls the plug on his investment proposal. There is a point in having the Trust. Without the Trust, Nixon and Jenkins could sell shares to absolutely anybody. The Trust can't just 'do anything' - Nixon, Jenkins and Pattison currently have 75% stake in the club. What the Trust have proven though is that they are not a block to investment. They are very much behind Andrew Lapping's plan, and would be supportive of another investor who shared similar ideas that Andrew has. The Trust need to be more vocal now though, they need to be more active and seen to be doing more for the fans, and for the club. This change is coming... Interesting - given that Comical Andy told us he wasn't and that things would be moving forwards..........yet more BS from the club I'm afraid...
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Post by CUFCDeano on Jun 6, 2015 17:12:16 GMT
I don't know how these things work in all honesty. I suppose there is every chance that Nixon can still progress things while he's on holiday. Then again, he doesn't read the papers or use social media...does he even have a mobile phone?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2015 17:19:12 GMT
I don't know how these things work in all honesty. I suppose there is every chance that Nixon can still progress things while he's on holiday. Then again, he doesn't read the papers or use socia media...does he even have a mobile phone? All correspondence with Nixon is via carrier pigeon i believe.
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Post by daviejones on Jun 6, 2015 17:38:48 GMT
I don't know how these things work in all honesty. I suppose there is every chance that Nixon can still progress things while he's on holiday. Then again, he doesn't read the papers or use socia media...does he even have a mobile phone? All correspondence with Nixon is via carrier pigeon i believe. I've heard he carries an entire desktop computer in his chin.
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Post by mashiniblick on Jun 6, 2015 17:51:53 GMT
I don't know how these things work in all honesty. I suppose there is every chance that Nixon can still progress things while he's on holiday. Then again, he doesn't read the papers or use social media...does he even have a mobile phone? It's a Nokia 3210, with more or less the same £10 credit he put on 3 years ago.
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Post by CCU on Jun 6, 2015 17:54:12 GMT
I don't know how these things work in all honesty. I suppose there is every chance that Nixon can still progress things while he's on holiday. Then again, he doesn't read the papers or use social media...does he even have a mobile phone? You don't seriously believe that do you?
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Post by valhalladancehall on Jun 6, 2015 19:50:25 GMT
Doors are being banged. Mr Nixon is on holiday and out the country for 2 weeks now, so chances of any news within the next 2 weeks I imagine will be slim. I completely agree with you though, that the Trust should not be kept in the dark. Other board members, and Norman Steel himself agree that they should not be kept in the dark. This is I'm not a Trust board member so can't answer the question about the new investor, other than giving my own opinion as a supporter of CUFC and regular member of the Trust. I personally don't think there is another investor. I think this is all a ploy and they're hoping that Andrew Lapping pulls the plug on his investment proposal. There is a point in having the Trust. Without the Trust, Nixon and Jenkins could sell shares to absolutely anybody. The Trust can't just 'do anything' - Nixon, Jenkins and Pattison currently have 75% stake in the club. What the Trust have proven though is that they are not a block to investment. They are very much behind Andrew Lapping's plan, and would be supportive of another investor who shared similar ideas that Andrew has. The Trust need to be more vocal now though, they need to be more active and seen to be doing more for the fans, and for the club. This change is coming... Interesting - given that Comical Andy told us he wasn't and that things would be moving forwards..........yet more BS from the club I'm afraid... Pretty sure Andy said that Nixon would be in the club a couple of days this week, nothing about next week though. EDIT - found the post thecumbrians.boards.net/thread/5243/john-nixons-on-summer-holiday?page=2&scrollTo=94725
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Post by carlisleunited1975 on Jun 6, 2015 21:03:28 GMT
Don't talk sh1te. even Andrew Lapping wouldn't advocate that. So we all know what is going to happen don't we......errrrrrr ....nothing. Investor has decided to pull out ......eeeerrr no money for summer investment......eeeer back up for sale but conviently lappings investors have had enough so we can retain power. . so what we going to do about it lads and lasses? ......I know, let's sit on our hands.
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Post by rsblue on Jun 6, 2015 21:45:33 GMT
Don't worry worm tongue is away so king theoden will come to his senses and see that his evilness has put them up the creek without a paddle!
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Post by pacirv on Jun 7, 2015 8:19:25 GMT
They have maintained for years that they had not been approached and yet over the last few weeks have talked about someone from Malta and others making offers and denied that AL was putting together a plan even though they had been talking to him for several months. I don't know what their game is, but the only end result if there is no billionaire investor well be the death of our club.
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Post by knightonsavedus on Jun 7, 2015 22:36:17 GMT
Don't talk sh1te. even Andrew Lapping wouldn't advocate that. So we all know what is going to happen don't we......errrrrrr ....nothing. Investor has decided to pull out ......eeeerrr no money for summer investment......eeeer back up for sale but conviently lappings investors have had enough so we can retain power. . so what we going to do about it lads and lasses? ......I know, let's sit on our hands. Something needs done but what is the right thing to do? Maybe a mass protest at the first match is more appropriate rather than a boycott. Make our voices heard rather than it just looking like a shite attendance.
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Post by bluesmad on Jun 8, 2015 6:25:28 GMT
IF...... There is no takeover and AJ/JN remain in charge next season I will not pay another penny to the club in any capacity until they're gone! I won't as planned be taking my 6 year old son either as I will not allow him to watch the club I love be driven to the ground and oblivion by the custodians!
I want his memories to be fond and I want him to enjoy football.... Last 4 years especially I can count on one hand the number of games i've enjoyed!
people can take what action they feel is right... Football is nothing without its supporters! Alienate them and you lose them which is simple and yet far too mind boggling for the current incumbents to work out! 13,000 watched a drab 0-0 draw with Canvey Island in the conference, tells you everything you need to know!
If they've pulled off a deal with a billionaire or decide to sell to Mr Lapping i'll be overjoyed and happy to plough my money (however little) into the club again!but next seasons football for me will be the local park my dog and son!
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Post by moorlad on Jun 8, 2015 9:12:01 GMT
Boycotting the first home game? Not my style really, I'll be tagging along, as I will for most home games. I realise I have been very vocal about the failings of the buffoons in charge of the club pretty much since Fred left, but I still feel I want to show that they can't stop me following the team.
I am, however, as fed up with this disgrace as anybody (more so than most), and want something sorted out quickly. It is my considered opinion that there will be no mystery millionaire backer coming forward, this is a plot aimed at fooling the most gullible fans - they have to realise we're not all going to fall for it, don't they? What they are doing is taking certain parts of Lapping's plan and putting them into action, just the bits they can shout about, the appointment of the Sales and Marketing Director for a start. What they want is to be able to take the sting out of the Lapping bid, they want to be able to say "we're doing most of that, so there's no point in changing the leadership". Meanwhile the non existent multi millionaire will gradually fade away leading up to the start of the season, then as soon as we manage to string 2 or 3 wins together there'll be an announcement that he has pulled out.
By the same token I want absolutely nothing to do with the Trust, they are a proven failed organisation, they don't communicate with their members, they are a completely closed shop with little or no intention of allowing new blood to have any say in how they are run, and they do not challenge the idiots running the club at all. They also seem happy to be completely sidelined.
This board, by the way, appears to be a promotional vehicle for the Trust at the moment. Is that what it was set up to be?
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Post by mullen103 on Jun 8, 2015 10:20:15 GMT
Will we all be there at the first game of the season, with Nixon and Jenkins still in the directors box and doing nothing about it.
I won't
Jenkins has escaped a lot of critism but enough is enough now and its time for him to be pushed out along with Nixon.
I'll be there with my Nixon and Jenkins out banners and we should be making a lot of noise and make life uncomfortable for them as theres no way they should get away with what they have been doing.
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Post by moorlad on Jun 8, 2015 10:35:23 GMT
So Mullen, which is it? You won't be there, or you'll be there with your Jenkins and Nixon out banners?
There's all sorts could be done instead of not going. There could be something like everyone going in 10 minutes into the game. There could be protests outside, or at half time. We could get everyone to turn their backs on Nixon and Jenkins at a particular point in the game, or it could be organised that there's a stay behind protest. Something like that will be more visible, and might even have an effect.
If a couple of thousand stay away they won't even notice, the first home game traditionally has a reasonable attendance, so it will hardly make a dent.
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Post by mashiniblick on Jun 8, 2015 10:42:47 GMT
Moorlad, it doesn't make a difference what 'protests' happen away from the match. Once you've paid for your ticket (whether it be to go in before KO or 10 minutes after) won't matter to them two tw@ts as the fact remains you've given them your £20. Obviously the more people who do this, support golf days, buy from club shop etc etc at the moment - the less JN & AJ believe there is a problem at all. CUFC fans are never going to torch Nixons car etc in this day & age, online petition and whinging on here is about as bad as it gets. But of shouting at the directors box maybe too.
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Post by mullen103 on Jun 8, 2015 10:46:20 GMT
So Mullen, which is it? You won't be there, or you'll be there with your Jenkins and Nixon out banners? There's all sorts could be done instead of not going. There could be something like everyone going in 10 minutes into the game. There could be protests outside, or at half time. We could get everyone to turn their backs on Nixon and Jenkins at a particular point in the game, or it could be organised that there's a stay behind protest. Something like that will be more visible, and might even have an effect. If a couple of thousand stay away they won't even notice, the first home game traditionally has a reasonable attendance, so it will hardly make a dent. I'll be at the first home game regardless moorlad but if nothing changes then it will probably be away games only for me.
I will have banners and everything if them two are still in the directors box come first game of the season. Need to make voices heard prior to the match in the car park area as that's where they loiter, peacefully of course :-)
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Post by moorlad on Jun 8, 2015 10:54:32 GMT
Moorlad, it doesn't make a difference what 'protests' happen away from the match. Once you've paid for your ticket (whether it be to go in before KO or 10 minutes after) won't matter to them two tw@ts as the fact remains you've given them your £20. Obviously the more people who do this, support golf days, buy from club shop etc etc at the moment - the less JN & AJ believe there is a problem at all. CUFC fans are never going to torch Nixons car etc in this day & age, online petition and whinging on here is about as bad as it gets. But of shouting at the directors box maybe too. I do actually agree with you there, although it may not sound much like it. I certainly agree they are thick skinned enough not to take the slightest bit of notice of any protest and carry on pocketing the money. But some kind of formal protest is more likely to make it into newspapers and local telly news bulletins that a couple of thousand missing off the gate for the first home game. After all they've nearly halved the numbers attending already and nowt has been in the news about it.
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Post by mashiniblick on Jun 8, 2015 11:02:12 GMT
Like I said about that Kurtz' fella's online petition, Only about 2,000 bothered to sign it if memory serves me right. That was all over the local media outlets at the time. That's about all you can expect really. Hopefully by the start of the season AL's investment will have gone through and there'll be a bit of common sense in the club.
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Post by moorlad on Jun 8, 2015 11:10:43 GMT
Of course the people who post on here against the two owners are not everyone who goes to games either. I'm sure there are some who believe that the owners have the best interests of the club and it's fans at heart. We are a vocal minority I think. So any sort of protest will never involve everyone, although once things change some of the people supporting the former owners (hopefully) will be saying they were with the rebels all along.
My view, for what it's worth, is that if it were to be organised properly more people would participate in some kind of protest than would stay away from a game. And of course, it is right that the extra 2,000 £20 notes would go directly to the idiots we're trying to get rid of, but I'd still want visibility.
I don't think the Lapping deal will go through mate, in fact I think there's no chance, certainly by August. This smokescreen (multi millionaire) will leave the deal dead in the water, along with their implementing parts of Lapping's scheme anyway. Come the first game it will just be business as normal.
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Post by mashiniblick on Jun 8, 2015 11:18:15 GMT
They get an easy ride from us fans and the local media, no wonder they feel they can take the p!ss like they have. This Phil King appointment will turn out to be yet another complete waste of time.
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Post by kurtz on Jun 8, 2015 13:06:42 GMT
Like I said about that Kuntz' fella's online petition, Only about 2,000 bothered to sign it if memory serves me right. That was all over the local media outlets at the time. That's about all you can expect really. Hopefully by the start of the season AL's investment will have gone through and there'll be a bit of common sense in the club. Childish behind the keyboard insults again eh! Brave lad. Why don't you organise something then like I did, instead of pizzing and moaning on here about everything. Your mouths obviously big enough so put it to good use for once! Or are you waiting for someone else to man up?
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Post by moorlad on Jun 8, 2015 13:18:08 GMT
That didn't seem like an insult to me at all, I thought he was saying it doesn't matter what we do, or how much media is involved the two clowns won't listen. There might well have been some veiled insult I've missed but it honestly looked like a post in good faith to me.
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Post by kurtz on Jun 8, 2015 13:22:29 GMT
That didn't seem like an insult to me at all, I thought he was saying it doesn't matter what we do, or how much media is involved the two clowns won't listen. There might well have been some veiled insult I've missed but it honestly looked like a post in good faith to me. He repeatedly refers to me as 'Kuntz' as opossed to 'Kurtz' moorlad and totally intentional, believe me. I can laugh the first time but then it just becomes childishly insulting. Funny as fcuk if your about 12 like.
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Post by moorlad on Jun 8, 2015 13:26:05 GMT
Oh right, I never even noticed that, sorry.
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Post by paddockwarbler on Jun 8, 2015 13:30:55 GMT
It will take The Grim Reaper himself to finally rid us of these 2 parasites,or an hostile take over
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Post by wukkie on Jun 8, 2015 14:34:43 GMT
Surely a few molotov cocktails in the car park wouldn't hurt. it would certainly get the message across.
Where are all these wannabe ultras, time to stand up and be counted instead of banging a drum and singing chav songs.
*In no way am I condoning any type of violence.
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Post by khg on Jun 8, 2015 14:56:02 GMT
13,000 watched a drab 0-0 draw with Canvey Island in the conference, Really?I thought it was about half that to be honest...
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Post by kurtz on Jun 8, 2015 16:03:36 GMT
Surely a few molotov cocktails in the car park wouldn't hurt. it would certainly get the message across. Where are all these wannabe ultras, time to stand up and be counted instead of banging a drum and singing chav songs. *In no way am I condoning any type of violence. I realise you jest wukkie but therein lies the problem. Nevermind the Ultras, where's the normal everyday fans who are just sick to the back teeth like in the Knighton days. We all marched from the Civic and around the ground as the match was being played. It seems like people these days just can't be bothered to do anything themselves and look for someone else to do the dirty work. It's no use moaning on a message board. This is why the BoD do what they do because they know that in Carlisle today, apathy rules. Complain collaboratively, get together and organise some direct action in and around the ground. And I don't mean 2 flags quietly unfurled during a match. ( If as it seems , the current impasse was orchestrated by the current lot in charge of course)
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Post by nobbyblue on Jun 8, 2015 16:23:37 GMT
"We all marched from the Civic and around the ground as the match was being played. "I must have missed that. What game was that?
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