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Post by carlisleunited1975 on Jun 6, 2015 10:26:06 GMT
Never been one to support anything that hurts the club, however it may well be the only thing that Nixon will respond to. This alternate takeover ain't happening really is it so if Nixon and AJ think that they will need to plug a cash hole then perhaps they will go back to Lapping who is the only show in town in terms of a genuine takeover.
thoughts?
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Post by crunchblue on Jun 6, 2015 10:39:47 GMT
I am not missing the first home game of the season no matter what.
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Post by gundog on Jun 6, 2015 10:46:23 GMT
Don't talk sh1te. even Andrew Lapping wouldn't advocate that.
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Post by mashiniblick on Jun 6, 2015 10:56:53 GMT
I'm up for it. Season's already a right off anyway! What with how the last few weeks have panned out, deadwood still likely to be on the books, KC still in charge and average 500+ miles per away trip.
Was going to enter a team in that golf day, but why plough anymore money in with JN/AJ still deciding where it gets spent?
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Post by arabblue on Jun 6, 2015 11:04:53 GMT
Idiots
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Post by feckwittery on Jun 6, 2015 11:06:02 GMT
Done, unfortunately 4,532 feckwits will go regardless.
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Post by chilledsilly on Jun 6, 2015 11:29:09 GMT
Don't talk rubbish .... you don't even know what's happening with the takeover!!!
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Post by lakelandterrier on Jun 6, 2015 11:32:23 GMT
For me the Trust are not shouting loud enough for the supporters, we all donated money to them for our voice, to me they ate playing fiddle to AJ&JN. They need to be putting pressure on for the TRUTH!
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Post by lakelandterrier on Jun 6, 2015 11:33:49 GMT
There is no Takeove4, we have saw no proof. Fact.
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Post by deckchairblue on Jun 6, 2015 11:35:52 GMT
KC still in charge and average 500+ miles per away trip. Because a change in ownership and management would've meant shorter away trips ?
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Post by mrquint on Jun 6, 2015 11:58:27 GMT
It's a matter of choice and conscience; If you don't like Nixon and his regime then don't go is my view. Like any football fan that does not like the way a club is being run not turning up is the way to do something about it.
For me, i no longer trust the board and i have become deeply skeptical and suspicious of waht is occurring. I don't believe we will see or hear much of the mysterious foreign billionaire and it's going to be business as usual. I'm not at all happy at the contempt shown for the 'Lapping' plan and fear that this was a missed opportunity.
I personally would be prepared to boycott, i went to every home game expect for the York game last season and it was poor. This was not only in terms of result! The club is in need of change in so many ways. Like i say it's a matter for individual fans; but that's what we are, fans with the same common cause.
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Post by mashiniblick on Jun 6, 2015 12:56:19 GMT
Kurtz's petition, some half arsed banners and chanting have done nothing so far. As soon as season ticket sales stopped, they pulled out of the Lapping deal...the board are taking the pi55 out of us fans. Open your eyes ffs. A boycott now would be better in the long run.
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Post by daviejones on Jun 6, 2015 13:12:31 GMT
In the numbers you're likely to muster up for any sort of boycott I honestly can't see them noticing or caring.
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Post by CUFCDeano on Jun 6, 2015 13:19:59 GMT
For me the Trust are not shouting loud enough for the supporters, we all donated money to them for our voice, to me they ate playing fiddle to AJ&JN. They need to be putting pressure on for the TRUTH! They can only put so much pressure on. Simply put, they are being kept in the dark just as much as the likes of you and me.
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Post by mashiniblick on Jun 6, 2015 13:22:38 GMT
Deano, is it really worth joining the Trust? Thinking of paying for a Family membership for me & young Mashi.
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Post by CUFCDeano on Jun 6, 2015 13:35:08 GMT
Deano, is it really worth joining the Trust? Thinking of paying for a Family membership for me & young Mashi. Absolutely, now more than ever. There are changes a foot, this is the time to get the voice that we so very much need. Was at a meeting this morning with the Trust, to discuss big changes that they're planning and how they can work closer with existing supporters groups, such as the London Branch, the West Travel, the Away Travel and the likes of this messageboard. They'd picked up on the discussion about buckets at Penrith/Workington etc, to fund the £500-£600 that the club are charging and were really supportive of it. They have a meeting next week lined up with Chris Lumsdon and Jon Colman, and are planning on a radio appearance next week also. Believe me, they are banging on doors down at BP requesting information. Have a listen to the radio on Tuesday or Friday, I'll post the link here to re-listen, and then make up your mind whether to join or not. This is the perfect opportunity though - the AGM is coming up in July too where new board members will be elected.
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Post by lakelandterrier on Jun 6, 2015 13:59:46 GMT
For me the Trust are not shouting loud enough for the supporters, we all donated money to them for our voice, to me they ate playing fiddle to AJ&JN. They need to be putting pressure on for the TRUTH! They can only put so much pressure on. Simply put, they are being kept in the dark just as much as the likes of you and me.
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Post by lakelandterrier on Jun 6, 2015 14:05:16 GMT
All the more reason to be banging on doors down at Brunton Park more! As a board member the Trust should not be kept in the dark. Obviously the directors do not see the Trust as part of the group. As a trust do you believe this new investor is real with some sort of proof, if not you backed Andrew Lappings plans, back him more! If you cannot do anything there is no point of the trust as the fans have no say!
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Post by daviejones on Jun 6, 2015 14:07:15 GMT
I think we're getting to the root of the problem here.
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Post by CUFCDeano on Jun 6, 2015 14:14:51 GMT
All the more reason to be banging on doors down at Brunton Park more! As a board member the Trust should not be kept in the dark. Obviously the directors do not see the Trust as part of the group. As a trust do you believe this new investor is real with some sort of proof, if not you backed Andrew Lappings plans, back him more! If you cannot do anything there is no point of the trust as the fans have no say! Doors are being banged. Mr Nixon is on holiday and out the country for 2 weeks now, so chances of any news within the next 2 weeks I imagine will be slim. I completely agree with you though, that the Trust should not be kept in the dark. Other board members, and Norman Steel himself agree that they should not be kept in the dark. This is I'm not a Trust board member so can't answer the question about the new investor, other than giving my own opinion as a supporter of CUFC and regular member of the Trust. I personally don't think there is another investor. I think this is all a ploy and they're hoping that Andrew Lapping pulls the plug on his investment proposal. There is a point in having the Trust. Without the Trust, Nixon and Jenkins could sell shares to absolutely anybody. The Trust can't just 'do anything' - Nixon, Jenkins and Pattison currently have 75% stake in the club. What the Trust have proven though is that they are not a block to investment. They are very much behind Andrew Lapping's plan, and would be supportive of another investor who shared similar ideas that Andrew has. The Trust need to be more vocal now though, they need to be more active and seen to be doing more for the fans, and for the club. This change is coming...
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Post by studavo38 on Jun 6, 2015 14:33:43 GMT
I was at a meeting with other people today and i can honestly say they want to change and actually stand up for what the fans want. Now is the time and need as many fans to support the new branded supporters club as possible! They will succeed by being honest, open and transparent about what is happening!
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Post by mashiniblick on Jun 6, 2015 14:37:29 GMT
That was why I was asking, if the BoD can play games with Trust as they are now and get away with it, then what is the point of the Trust?
Nice timing of Nixon to have a fortnights holiday, before you know it it'll be 2 months since he phoned AL up and read him that pathetic statement down the phone and we'll be no further on. ****!
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Post by studavo38 on Jun 6, 2015 14:57:07 GMT
There was some good conversations about roles, responsibilities and holding people accountable for producing meaningful actions. This needs to be a clear picture from what the supporters group actually want with regular meetings around the county. A true voice and with honest answers. What we do need is more members and support to help shape a new group!
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Post by flumeblue on Jun 6, 2015 15:15:33 GMT
As a Trust Board member I can assure you I want the voice of the Supporters to be heard. And my viewpoint is, I believe, held by all Board members. But we need many more people to join so that we have a Supporters organisation that is truly representative of the fans and of the community as a whole. There will be so many different opinions in a larger organisation but I’m not afraid of challenge. In fact I believe being presented with different points of view can lead to positive change if this is handled fairly and democratically.
I do believe there are benefits to be had for individual supporters, the club, businesses and the wider community when we all come together.
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Post by useless on Jun 6, 2015 15:42:54 GMT
Maybe a brighter idea might be for EVERYONE to turn up to support our club, and turn on the BOD and hound these parasites out of the club.
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Post by kurtz on Jun 6, 2015 15:50:23 GMT
Kuntz's petition, some half arsed banners and chanting have done nothing so far. As soon as season ticket sales stopped, they pulled out of the Lapping deal...the board are taking the pi55 out of us fans. Open your eyes ffs. A boycott now would be better in the long run. Childish and no need for it whatsoever. Grow up man! Regarding boycotts, can you not all organise protests similar to when Knighton was ousted? That way if people absolutely have to go in then their voices are still heard. In fact protest outside and inside. They need to be made uncomfortable in their own ivory tower. Their shenanigans have gone on for long enough. Just not going is not enough and will barely be noticed. Protests, large or small are always noticed and the media lap them up.
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Post by chilledsilly on Jun 6, 2015 16:13:55 GMT
Negotiations we are told are at an advanced stage ...I'm still happy to give them time but I don't see a problem with one trust leader being included in the confidentiality agreement so that they could convey some confidence to the supporters. . the only downside mind you ..would be him being hounded for more info ? I can't believe there isn't another investor or surely AL would be saying a little bit more ?
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Post by pacirv on Jun 6, 2015 16:17:08 GMT
As per Knighton era turning up to the game but not going in but protesting outside was reasonably effective last time, might be worth a shout again.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2015 16:22:56 GMT
Deano, is it really worth joining the Trust? Thinking of paying for a Family membership for me & young Mashi. Absolutely, now more than ever. There are changes a foot, this is the time to get the voice that we so very much need. Was at a meeting this morning with the Trust, to discuss big changes that they're planning and how they can work closer with existing supporters groups, such as the London Branch, the West Travel, the Away Travel and the likes of this messageboard. They'd picked up on the discussion about buckets at Penrith/Workington etc, to fund the £500-£600 that the club are charging and were really supportive of it. They have a meeting next week lined up with Chris Lumsdon and Jon Colman, and are planning on a radio appearance next week also. Believe me, they are banging on doors down at BP requesting information. Have a listen to the radio on Tuesday or Friday, I'll post the link here to re-listen, and then make up your mind whether to join or not. This is the perfect opportunity though - the AGM is coming up in July too where new board members will be elected. If i were to join the trust, what do i get for that membership? Is it just a way of supporting the whole thing with my £10 or is there more too it than that? I was waiting to join the new supporters club/revamped trust - seems as though i may be waiting a while for that so thinking of just joining the trust as it is now.
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Post by CUFCDeano on Jun 6, 2015 16:42:05 GMT
Absolutely, now more than ever. There are changes a foot, this is the time to get the voice that we so very much need. Was at a meeting this morning with the Trust, to discuss big changes that they're planning and how they can work closer with existing supporters groups, such as the London Branch, the West Travel, the Away Travel and the likes of this messageboard. They'd picked up on the discussion about buckets at Penrith/Workington etc, to fund the £500-£600 that the club are charging and were really supportive of it. They have a meeting next week lined up with Chris Lumsdon and Jon Colman, and are planning on a radio appearance next week also. Believe me, they are banging on doors down at BP requesting information. Have a listen to the radio on Tuesday or Friday, I'll post the link here to re-listen, and then make up your mind whether to join or not. This is the perfect opportunity though - the AGM is coming up in July too where new board members will be elected. If i were to join the trust, what do i get for that membership? Is it just a way of supporting the whole thing with my £10 or is there more too it than that? I was waiting to join the new supporters club/revamped trust - seems as though i may be waiting a while for that so thinking of just joining the trust as it is now. At the moment it's just 'having a voice'. At this morning's meeting I made the point that supporters would want more for their money, benefits as such. They took my points on board. You hopefully won't be waiting too long for a revamped trust/supporters club - something could be in place before the season starts potentially. That said, I'd certainly recommend joining the Trust as it is now. I renewed my membership for a further year again this morning. I genuinely do see things happening, and progress being made.
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