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Post by northumbrian on May 12, 2015 11:58:06 GMT
Lots of footballers play with broken toes... it depends where the break is. I played for 2 months with one at amatuer level.. painful for the first few minutes and then it was okay. Hurt like hell the next day though. There have been lots of players who had to play whlst not 100% fit for several games over the last couple of seasons, but Potts is the only one who has used it as an excuse for poor form. Most players just keep it quiet so you never know. O'Hanlon frequently played through injury last season, even when he was getting hammered by the fans for playing badly, but he never allowed the story to get out as an excuse for form. Let's face it Pott's doesn't want to be here any more... just take the money and move on.
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Post by newbluedream on May 12, 2015 12:44:31 GMT
Lots of footballers play with broken toes... it depends where the break is. I played for 2 months with one at amatuer level.. painful for the first few minutes and then it was okay. Hurt like hell the next day though. There have been lots of players who had to play whlst not 100% fit for several games over the last couple of seasons, but Potts is the only one who has used it as an excuse for poor form. Most players just keep it quiet so you never know. O'Hanlon frequently played through injury last season, even when he was getting hammered by the fans for playing badly, but he never allowed the story to get out as an excuse for form. Let's face it Pott's doesn't want to be here any more... just take the money and move on. Did Potts really use it as an excuse? It was Curle who kept mentioning it to show fans how committed Potts was by agreeing to play through it. He would then have been asked by journalists at every opportunity if the injury was affecting him. I don't recall Potts volunteering the information himself. |
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Post by deckchairblue on May 12, 2015 13:34:56 GMT
It's not like Carlisle fans haven't turned on players who have looked like they are going to leave on a free, and tried to use everything to make them out to be ungrateful, lazy etc.
It's happening with Potts, it happened with Graham, it happened with Muller (until he signed a new contract) and it will probably happen again next year with Dempsey if he doesn't sign again.
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Post by chesterviabothel on May 12, 2015 13:45:34 GMT
It's not like Carlisle fans haven't turned on players who have looked like they are going to leave on a free, and tried to use everything to make them out to be ungrateful, lazy etc. It's happening with Potts, it happened with Graham, it happened with Muller (until he signed a new contract) and it will probably happen again next year with Dempsey if he doesn't sign again. Was that Gerd Muller, or Thomas? |
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Post by deckchairblue on May 12, 2015 13:50:01 GMT
Obvious typo. Meant Miller
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Post by walwynlegend on May 12, 2015 13:50:47 GMT
It happened to Graham and Potts because they were not trying. Miller more down to age and the whole summer not returning calls while Abbott embarrassingly chased him, I don't remember players like Garner or Westwood getting much stick off fans.
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Post by northumbrian on May 12, 2015 13:54:04 GMT
Lots of footballers play with broken toes... it depends where the break is. I played for 2 months with one at amatuer level.. painful for the first few minutes and then it was okay. Hurt like hell the next day though. There have been lots of players who had to play whlst not 100% fit for several games over the last couple of seasons, but Potts is the only one who has used it as an excuse for poor form. Most players just keep it quiet so you never know. O'Hanlon frequently played through injury last season, even when he was getting hammered by the fans for playing badly, but he never allowed the story to get out as an excuse for form. Let's face it Pott's doesn't want to be here any more... just take the money and move on. Did Potts really use it as an excuse? It was Curle who kept mentioning it to show fans how committed Potts was by agreeing to play through it. He would then have been asked by journalists at every opportunity if the injury was affecting him. I don't recall Potts volunteering the information himself. Yes that is a valid point. But several have mentioned this information coming from his family. Personally I'm not bothered. I don't blame the lad for wanting to leave to have a crack at a higher level on a better contract. When you know you are leaving it must be difficult to concentrate on your form etc. and there seems no doubt he has had a minor injury. |
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Post by chesterviabothel on May 12, 2015 14:01:12 GMT
Obvious typo. Meant Miller I know, sorry I thought my sarcasm was obvious enough!  |
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Post by mashiniblick on May 12, 2015 14:07:43 GMT
It's Müller, not Muller.  |
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Post by deckchairblue on May 12, 2015 14:21:34 GMT
Obvious typo. Meant Miller I know, sorry I thought my sarcasm was obvious enough! No worries, just wanted to clarify. |
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Post by deckchairblue on May 12, 2015 14:25:01 GMT
It happened to Graham and Potts because they were not trying. Miller more down to age and the whole summer not returning calls while Abbott embarrassingly chased him, I don't remember players like Garner or Westwood getting much stick off fans. Opinion really, Graham had a dry spell, which he did a couple of times with us. Potts could just been out of form, as i've said before, it seems that he was often pinpointed by fans when other players had just as bad games. Garner and Westwood were both sold, they didn't leave on frees. |
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Post by markovitch on May 12, 2015 14:52:39 GMT
If fon Williams is a good keeper get him signed up. As I understand the rules we made an offer to Gillespie so we are entitled to compensation, is that not right?
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Post by walwynlegend on May 12, 2015 14:58:10 GMT
True on Garner but he could have signed for Carlisle instead of Preston when on loan from Watford but 99% of fans didn't resent him not doing.
I thought Westwood let his contract run out but we got a fee due to his age the same as Potts (and Gillespie who in my opinion has kept trying when selected).
Potts has been out of form but it's the backing out of tackles, lack of concentration and awful body language which says doesn't want to be here more than a bad pass or shot.
It is opinion but to me fans don't turn just because players haven't signed. I've complained about Amoo's effort and I'm glad he hasn't had the chance to sign!
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Post by newbluedream on May 12, 2015 14:59:37 GMT
If fon Williams is a good keeper get him signed up. As I understand the rules we made an offer to Gillespie so we are entitled to compensation, is that not right? yes that is correct |
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Post by dancingbear on May 12, 2015 16:30:16 GMT
If Potts definitely wants away then why didn't he say he wanted away and wasn't signing instead of us looking stupid offering contract after contract?
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Post by deckchairblue on May 12, 2015 16:39:25 GMT
If Potts definitely wants away then why didn't he say he wanted away and wasn't signing instead of us looking stupid offering contract after contract? That's what I mean, he has said in interviews that he will be happy to stay. But his agent could easily he saying, don't sign that you could get better. You can hardly blame him if his head has been turned. |
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Post by crunchblue on May 12, 2015 16:42:56 GMT
i thought Westwood let his contract run out but we got a fee due to his age I think if I remember rightly we sold him for about 750k with a year left on his contract. I think if he'd stayed and let his deal expire the following summer he would have been over age so we'd have got f all |
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Post by walwynlegend on May 12, 2015 17:54:08 GMT
OK, Westwood must have made his intentions clear to the club at an early stage so fair play to him for that.
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Post by oldhamblue on May 12, 2015 18:00:27 GMT
OK, Westwood must have made his intentions clear to the club at an early stage so fair play to him for that. Also, it was fairly obvious that Westwood could make it a lot higher up....not so sure re Potts... |
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Post by deckchairblue on May 12, 2015 18:08:02 GMT
OK, Westwood must have made his intentions clear to the club at an early stage so fair play to him for that. Also, it was fairly obvious that Westwood could make it a lot higher up....not so sure re Potts... Why do you assume that Westwood did this ? The club could just as likely assumed that he would leave if a higher club came in, and didn't want to lose him for free. |
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Post by walwynlegend on May 13, 2015 12:20:57 GMT
Obviously any half competently ran club would offer Westwood a contract by that stage......
Oh right, I see.
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Post by crunchblue on May 19, 2015 19:28:08 GMT
Absolutely no chance these 2 will sign new contracts after todays bombshell.
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Post by classongrass on May 19, 2015 19:39:59 GMT
aye .. grant holt seemed to think that as well on Radio Cumbria earlier... bye bye lads
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Post by mashiniblick on Jun 11, 2015 19:37:06 GMT
mush You called it, Kenny.
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Post by mush on Jun 11, 2015 19:40:43 GMT
In the know pal.
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