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Post by qwertyyoop on Jun 4, 2015 11:14:01 GMT
Actually the above quote came from a Pro Goalie with Hartlepool. To big for me to argue with.
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Post by chesterviabothel on Jun 4, 2015 11:15:57 GMT
Actually the above quote came from a Pro Goalie with Hartlepool. To big for me to argue with. Really?! That surprises me. Sounds like he's either worked with crap coaches or reckon's there's no way for him to improve his game... which if he's a pro at Hartlepool would be surprising.
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Post by blightyblue on Jun 4, 2015 11:22:50 GMT
Rubbish. Coaches are to hone the fitness of outfield players, plus not only improve their skills but also condition them to outfield strategy,and formations as required by the manager. Goalkeepers on the other hand are not involved in this process, in fact Goalkeepers never make mistakes. If a goal goes in its because the defenders have failed in their defensive duties, which if performed adequately would never have resulted in the ball heading in the direction of the goal, and resulting in a save required by the Goalie. Can't decide if you're on the wind up or not. Just humour him CVB or he will start crying and claim that you are only having a pop at him because he is old. Then he will say this new board is getting as nasty as the old one and threaten to stop posting (again).
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Post by qwertyyoop on Jun 4, 2015 11:50:45 GMT
Actually the above quote was given to me by a pro goalie who played for Hartlepool, and he believed what he said. To big for me to argue with.
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Post by qwertyyoop on Jun 4, 2015 11:58:07 GMT
Sorry, he worked under some fella called Clough. and Blighty, I have never threatened to stop posting, and it's unfortunate that childish gits like you infest almost every chat board, resulting in interested posters refraining from contributing, fearing the vitriol that your infantile mind creates,and spoiling any enjoyment, ie pi,,s off.
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Post by qwertyyoop on Jun 4, 2015 12:26:53 GMT
Try harder.
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Post by CUFCDeano on Jun 4, 2015 12:48:38 GMT
Goalkeepers on the other hand are not involved in this process, in fact Goalkeepers never make mistakes. If a goal goes in its because the defenders have failed in their defensive duties, I beg to differ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmws59X1cNg
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Post by blightyblue on Jun 4, 2015 13:00:13 GMT
Last week you were saying that Jenkins and Nixon do a sterling job and that anyone who disagrees is an idiot and this week you are claiming that we don't need a goalkeeping coach. I think it is you that needs to pi ss off you buffoon
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Post by cufcmike on Jun 4, 2015 13:35:48 GMT
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Post by blightyblue on Jun 4, 2015 19:58:06 GMT
It was comical when we signed a keeper from West Ham that couldn't kick mind when that was our weakest goalkeeping area.
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Post by bluealf on Jun 5, 2015 5:05:24 GMT
Goalkeepers on the other hand are not involved in this process, in fact Goalkeepers never make mistakes. If a goal goes in its because the defenders have failed in their defensive duties, I beg to differ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmws59X1cNgThat isn't a keeper error, the ball bobbles as he goes to strike it, like that Tim Flowers one, no error just unlucky or as you used to get told don't pass it back to the keeper in front of goal but to play it to one side, so maybe a Neville error lol Plenty of real keeper mistakes out there to put up though.
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Post by nobbyblue on Jun 5, 2015 6:41:42 GMT
I think a good goalkeeping coach can make all the difference. I'm not sure Tony Caig is one though.
A decent coach coming in just one or two days a week would probably be a better idea. I think Tony Elliot is highly rated, not sure what he's doing these days.
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Post by chesterviabothel on Jun 5, 2015 7:40:54 GMT
I think a good goalkeeping coach can make all the difference. I'm not sure Tony Caig is one though. A decent coach coming in just one or two days a week would probably be a better idea. I think Tony Elliot is highly rated, not sure what he's doing these days. Elliot is the keeper coach for the England futsal team, presumably he does other stuff as well
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Post by qwertyyoop on Jun 5, 2015 7:45:47 GMT
Chester. Always on the wind up, trouble is when I try to be facetious, people take me seriously, get agro and post accordingly. My original post simply questions the necessity for a full time coach for goalies.
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Post by chesterviabothel on Jun 5, 2015 7:59:53 GMT
Chester. Always on the wind up, trouble is when I try to be facetious, people take me seriously, get agro and post accordingly. My original post simply questions the necessity for a full time coach for goalies. As a former keeper myself I really don't understand why a full-time, professional club wouldn't have a full-time keeper coach. Goalkeeper is the most technical position on the pitch, and arguably one of the most important - a keeper's mistake generally costs a goal, no other position can say that. I just don't understand what they'd be doing for a lot of the time in training if there was no keeper coach there.
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Post by qwertyyoop on Jun 5, 2015 8:05:30 GMT
Blighty, buffoon, realy, well actually probably very true, If you wish to insult me can you print something that is untrue then I can argue and insult you back. To help you. Buffon..... True. Old...........True. But to be honest didn't realise that was something to be ashamed of. Git......... True. My wife has also added, senile, basket case, lazy bast..rd. all very true. If you wish to test me with some novel insults, then post here and I will confirm if true or not. Quite happy to receive suggestions from any other contributors but bear in mind eventually every insult has been heard before, ie I was once told I would be dangerous if I had half a brain. Trouble with that insult is that it would suggest that I actually do have more than the required 50 per cent, which I clearly don't. Please try to be original. Look forward to your attempt at a reply.
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Post by CUFCDeano on Jun 5, 2015 8:08:17 GMT
Can you take this to PM please.
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Post by qwertyyoop on Jun 5, 2015 8:18:00 GMT
Chester. Accept you were or are a goalie. My mate played for Hartlepool, and gave me the previously used quote. But to complete the the quote, he was under Brian Clough, who eventually told him he would never make a Goalies A\sh0le. A complete career quashed in one sentence..( and to be honest he never got over that) Always try to get some humour going but becoming very difficult with the agro n this board.
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Post by willcufc on Jun 5, 2015 16:56:55 GMT
If it matters his son said he was getting £3000 more at hartlepool and that he was anooyed with curle abd something to do with players being relased/transfer listed
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Post by daviejones on Jun 5, 2015 17:27:32 GMT
Gillespie leaving then? Don't know what else he could be annoyed about in terms of players.
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Post by melbourneblues on Jun 5, 2015 17:37:00 GMT
I think your sense of humour differs from most people on here qwerty.
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Post by qwertyyoop on Jun 6, 2015 9:09:01 GMT
I certainly hope so Melbourne. Wouldn't,t like to think I was on the same plain as most of the miserable bast..reds who now seem to inhabit this board. Lighten up, get a life and remember everybody is entitled to a different opinion.
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Post by gateswasgod on Jun 6, 2015 11:09:44 GMT
But to complete the the quote, he was under Brian Clough, who eventually told him he would never make a Goalies A\sh0le.
Cloughie also said the same thing to David Currie - Had a bit of a history of quashing dreams did our Cloughie
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Post by northumbrian on Jun 7, 2015 9:57:46 GMT
whether Tony is a good coach or not isn't really the issue here.... It's a not very well kept secret that Curle won't tolerate anyone disagreeing with his opinions and methods. If you challenge him in anyway you are treated badly and basically shunned.. I.e. Dicker, Paynter etc. The majority of the players and staff at BP think that KC is a bloody idiot with an enormous ego. He is trying to fill the squad with yes men who will follow his commands without questioning, that extends to the coaching staff. If you disagree then your time is numbered. You may think that is a good thing for a squad or a bad thing I guess. I personally think it is a bad one.... But others will disagree. Only time will tell.
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Post by qwertyyoop on Jun 7, 2015 10:19:21 GMT
Northumbria, at last the voice of sanity. But who or what are VO Otherwise your comments if true are extremely disturbing, I have to ask the point of entering a new season with a manager with dubious credentials, when the outcome could well be the sacking after 12 games, appointment of a new manager, who will then claim they are not his players so not responsible. Sounds familiar . KC seems to have this aura of bullying attached to his credentials, as other managers in the past, so surely it,s time to say enough is enough. I notice that many West Cumberland followers have extolled the virtues of the recently departed Workington Manager, as far as producing a entertaining footballing side, but no one has come on here regarding our former player and manager of Barrow, Darren Edmonson, a successful side but are the entertaining.
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Post by northumbrian on Jun 8, 2015 6:52:45 GMT
Northumbria, at last the voice of sanity. But who or what are VO Otherwise your comments if true are extremely disturbing, I have to ask the point of entering a new season with a manager with dubious credentials, when the outcome could well be the sacking after 12 games, appointment of a new manager, who will then claim they are not his players so not responsible. Sounds familiar . KC seems to have this aura of bullying attached to his credentials, as other managers in the past, so surely it,s time to say enough is enough. I notice that many West Cumberland followers have extolled the virtues of the recently departed Workington Manager, as far as producing a entertaining footballing side, but no one has come on here regarding our former player and manager of Barrow, Darren Edmonson, a successful side but are the entertaining. Qwerty many fans believe that a kick up the backside was much needed and that we do need a manager that bullies the players... It is an approach that can work, once you have the correct type of player on board... Look at Brian Clough.... Massive ego, players weren't allowed to question his approach or they were sidelined and out of the door. Look at the crazy gang, which Curle was a part of, they were well known for internal bullying ... And indeed the prided themselves on only having players tough enough to take it. If you saw the documentary on Wimbledon recently you will see how some players were isolated and pushed out of the squad... It was quite ruthless at times. That is the background Curle comes from. A lot iof people want a manager like that in situations of crisis. And who knows, when he gets in the players who don't think he is a clown then it might work.... Currently though many do think he is a bloody idiot. To have a chance he will need to get rid of those ones very quickly. My personal view is that the days of that type of manager are gone. It's not 1975 anymore. Players have more power and earn much more now. If the likes of Dicker, Oaynter, CMW decide that they don't have an offer they want from another club they can stay put for the remaining year of their contract and screw Curles plans up. The simple fact is most succesful managers, Ferguson included, allow senior players to have a say, value their opinions and try to achieve a unified squad. The current situation is that a large section of the squad have no respect for the manager, think he knows very little about coaching and management, and think he is a horrible individual. It is going to be very tough for him to get performances out of those players on a consistent basis, given that they have no faith in him or trust in him. We will see what happens though.... Stranger things have happened... If he can get shot of a lot of players and bring in some "yes" men then it might work. He will be hoping for some cash from this trillionaire I expect.
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Post by nobbyblue on Jun 8, 2015 7:17:24 GMT
I don't think you can compare Curle to Brian Clough. These hard line tactics are all well and good but if you can't organise your side and players don't know what they're meant to be doing you're f***ed! I read somewhere that given a reasonable side it's not rocket science to get a bit of success in League Two although it might not always be pretty. I think it might have been Brian Little or somebody like that.
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Post by Bluestblue on Jun 8, 2015 7:18:16 GMT
"He will be hoping for some cash from this trillionaire I expect"
who may of course, be bringing his own man in
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Post by northumbrian on Jun 8, 2015 8:18:34 GMT
I don't think you can compare Curle to Brian Clough. These hard line tactics are all well and good but if you can't organise your side and players don't know what they're meant to be doing you're f***ed! I read somewhere that given a reasonable side it's not rocket science to get a bit of success in League Two although it might not always be pretty. I think it might have been Brian Little or somebody like that. lol. The only thing that is comparable is the ego.... Clough was able to back it up in terms of results and style of football though. I'm just trying to present a balanced argument... Some people on here believe he is doing a fine job. Not me obviously.
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Post by nobbyblue on Jun 8, 2015 10:11:42 GMT
I'm no a big fan either. I'll give hm 45 minutes of the first home game before calling for his head like any good paddockite.
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