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Post by carlisleunited1975 on May 25, 2015 22:02:16 GMT
So the future of our club and the up coming season is in your hands. A large section if not totality of our fan base will be thinking.....
- there will be a lack of open transparent communications coming out of the club - along with lack of communication there will be a cover thrown over the bogus investor so that we the fans will be kept in the dark as usual as to who it is, timescales, process, communication plan etc etc. - most people will think that this whole event will be a perverse method of retaining control of the club that has largely crumbled away under your leadership. - the talk of a new investor will be capitalised upon by comparing and contrasting against ALs plan to then criticise ALs proposals. - this whole thing will fall apart at a time when ALs groups investment will come too late for player recruit, ment and therefore result in failure on the pitch for you to say "I told you so" furthermore, the delay could jeopardise the whole plan for you to then revert back as the only game in town, how convenient. - player recruitment will rumble on during the close season against a budget that assumes that there won't even be any new investment at all.
so come on John, what a great opportunity to prove us all wrong.....over to you,......but the silence will be deafening.....or at best will we see an interim holding statement that means about as much as your previous statements in blue yonder etc etc.......we hold our breath or perhaps not.
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Post by cocaineblues on May 26, 2015 5:10:33 GMT
john.nixon@carlisleunited.co.uk
Just incase he doesn't read this messageboard
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Post by mashiniblick on May 26, 2015 5:45:59 GMT
"I couldn't give two f_cks, to be honest!"
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Post by pacirv on May 26, 2015 7:46:54 GMT
Maybe an open letter to the N&S would have some affect. We do need to key the man know that if he screws to this time that his position will be untenable.
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Post by pacirv on May 26, 2015 7:47:29 GMT
That should be let not key drat.
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Post by paddock on May 26, 2015 8:35:43 GMT
That should be let not key drat. First one made more sense.
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May 26, 2015 8:36:14 GMT
Post by mrquint on May 26, 2015 8:36:14 GMT
It's the lack of communication and lack of transparency that really gets to me fuel my instinct that all is not well. I am highly suspicious and skeptical.
The silence is indeed deafening!
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Post by CCU on May 26, 2015 9:00:15 GMT
I don't for one minute believe he doesn't look on here, read the paper etc...
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May 26, 2015 14:20:27 GMT
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Post by borderterrier on May 26, 2015 14:20:27 GMT
I hope he does so...... Go and watch and be more interested in the rugby 7's again instead of ruining CUFC.
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Post by carlisleunited1975 on Jun 8, 2015 22:18:58 GMT
So the future of our club and the up coming season is in your hands. A large section if not totality of our fan base will be thinking..... - there will be a lack of open transparent communications coming out of the club - along with lack of communication there will be a cover thrown over the bogus investor so that we the fans will be kept in the dark as usual as to who it is, timescales, process, communication plan etc etc. - most people will think that this whole event will be a perverse method of retaining control of the club that has largely crumbled away under your leadership. - the talk of a new investor will be capitalised upon by comparing and contrasting against ALs plan to then criticise ALs proposals. - this whole thing will fall apart at a time when ALs groups investment will come too late for player recruit, ment and therefore result in failure on the pitch for you to say "I told you so" furthermore, the delay could jeopardise the whole plan for you to then revert back as the only game in town, how convenient. - player recruitment will rumble on during the close season against a budget that assumes that there won't even be any new investment at all. so come on John, what a great opportunity to prove us all wrong.....over to you,......but the silence will be deafening.....or at best will we see an interim holding statement that means about as much as your previous statements in blue yonder etc etc.......we hold our breath or perhaps not. Thought I would bump this back to the top of the board John N. I can only assume that you must have missed it some how and that you are working hard on progressing the takeover as well as creating the constant hum of quality communications out of the club. Unfortunately however, you have done exactly the above, well at least you have not let anyone down.......only yourself and the club you serve eh.
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Jun 9, 2015 5:29:12 GMT
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Post by whytakemypostcode on Jun 9, 2015 5:29:12 GMT
What a crying shame we appear to now have our own silent version of the Oystons. All people want is a well run transparent community football club, where all one needs to worry about is the football on the pitch without the politics. Shame on you AJ & JN.
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Post by champagnesupernova on Jun 9, 2015 5:54:30 GMT
What a crying shame we appear to now have our own silent version of the Oystons. All people want is a well run transparent community football club, where all one needs to worry about is the football on the pitch without the politics. Shame on you AJ & JN. Come on mate, there's no need to insult the Oystons like that
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Post by paddock on Jun 9, 2015 7:45:11 GMT
I would rather have Sepp Blatter and Jack Warner running the club than those two. AJ has pumped money into the club, but it was his and others incompetence that necessitated it. JN is hanging on for dear life so he can keep his FA perks and freebies.
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Jun 9, 2015 7:57:45 GMT
Post by mullen103 on Jun 9, 2015 7:57:45 GMT
I don't for one minute believe he doesn't look on here, read the paper etc... He does look on here, he told me boss so
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Post by carlisleunited1975 on Jun 9, 2015 10:20:27 GMT
I don't for one minute believe he doesn't look on here, read the paper etc... He does look on here, he told me boss so Good......he has a great opportunity to prove us all wrong and bloody communicate...however we all know that this is not about what's best for the club and its supporters, it's about JN retaining power and FA involvement, thinking of himself first. Is there any formal process that allows us to push Nixon out? ? Because the new season will be upon us in no time. I don't really have an issue with AJ as such, he has kept the club afloat and deserves more (that said he has treated the symptom with his own money rather than the cause) the cause being not maximising the revenue potential of the club, poor organisation and marketing, poor ticket sales and offering marketing, poor off field revenue ideas and PR, the joke that is getting a drink on match days or Wolves fans being directed to the premier inn by stewards to eat and drink before the game as we didn't have staff on in the away end to man the bars etc before the game. All poor stuff really that even non league clubs are better at than us. The fact that we are a remote club should work in our favour, long trip for away fans who just want to watch a match on the TV, get some lunch and have a few beers before and after the game. Our hospitality for fans is shocking for a captive market. What do we do to keep the punters behind for a few beers, perhaps a meal or entertainment after a game?.......if we do anything, where is it marketed. Providing our details when we purchase tickets is gold mine data, text us, write to us, use Social media, use the data to generate revenue. Oh, I forgot, we are talking about an old boys club here who think selling a few pies should be enough.....and we know where that has got us. Other clubs generate more revenue with lower gates and lower priced tickets than us, that just shows the miss management of our club.
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Jun 9, 2015 10:33:46 GMT
Post by mullen103 on Jun 9, 2015 10:33:46 GMT
Agree apart from the AJ bit.
Its time he goes as well especially with this latest debacle.
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Post by mush on Jun 9, 2015 11:21:59 GMT
I don't for one minute believe he doesn't look on here, read the paper etc... He does look on here, he told me boss so did he contact your boss? never heard you mention it before
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Post by mullen103 on Jun 9, 2015 11:55:06 GMT
He does look on here, he told me boss so did he contact your boss? never heard you mention it before He contacted my boss don't ya know :-)
Just proves with the latest's statements why he wanted to keep the Lapping deal secret as he never ever wanted to go through with it and when it was made public and the supporters got onside with it he had no choice but to go through with it. He obviously panicked and created the billionaire story along with Jenkins.
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Post by mashiniblick on Jun 9, 2015 12:21:52 GMT
Never mind his FA perks, some 'mystery developer' has probably got JN by the b0llocks. Nice little sum could be coming his way if he oversees the move away from our home, to some field in the middle of nowhere near Kingmoor. Why else would he be hanging about? For a free trip to Portugal and a cup final ticket? Doubt it.
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Post by pacirv on Jun 9, 2015 12:46:50 GMT
Kingmoor isn't actually the worst place to build a new ground as it's far from being out in the wilds as more and more things are actually up there including new housing estates, if long term it turns out to be the best site then so be it, the club can not carry in as it is at BP forever no matter what some may think.
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Post by CUFCDeano on Jun 9, 2015 12:58:54 GMT
Kingmoor isn't actually the worst place to build a new ground as it's far from being out in the wilds as more and more things are actually up there including new housing estates, if long term it turns out to be the best site then so be it, the club can not carry in as it is at BP forever no matter what some may think. I'd love it if the new ground was at Kingmoor park...and that has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that it's my neck of the woods and within walking distance
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Post by mashiniblick on Jun 9, 2015 13:02:36 GMT
Kingmoor isn't actually the worst place to build a new ground as it's far from being out in the wilds as more and more things are actually up there including new housing estates, if long term it turns out to be the best site then so be it, the club can not carry in as it is at BP forever no matter what some may think. What a wonderful match day experience it would be for all attending, having to treck up there...
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Post by blightyblue on Jun 9, 2015 13:56:58 GMT
They should take a leaf out of Walsall's Saddlers club, excellent welcoming place for home and away fans.
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Post by mush on Jun 9, 2015 16:31:52 GMT
The current lot only welcome their boys club...
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Post by moorlad on Jun 10, 2015 11:05:31 GMT
Kingmoor isn't actually the worst place to build a new ground as it's far from being out in the wilds as more and more things are actually up there including new housing estates, if long term it turns out to be the best site then so be it, the club can not carry in as it is at BP forever no matter what some may think. What a wonderful match day experience it would be for all attending, having to treck up there... I'm not too worried about the trip there, easier for me anyway with the bypass and all that. The trouble I have with it all is that we will no longer own our ground, we will be at the whim of some soulless corporation and it will destroy us. Any new stadium will be the cheapest available option, it will be as horrible a place to go as Brunton Park (but for different reasons), and it will be too small for us to progress. Staying where we are is an option, it just is not one that is being looked at. A huge problem at the current ground is that the only real repairs carried out since after the flood have been sticking plaster applied haphazardly by Steve Pattison, as and when things fall to bits. There has never been any sort of refurb plan in place and as a result we have been left decades behind. The stadium is a disgrace, but it certainly is not beyond the realms of possibility that it can still be used to stage football games. It needs a schedule of improvements, and this sort of plan, alongside a Blue Yonder plan, both properly costed need to be presented to the fans. That will not be done of course, because the best way for these two robbers to get rich is to flog off the family silver and ride off into the sunset.
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Post by mashiniblick on Jun 10, 2015 11:18:28 GMT
Exactly moorlad. Those would be the absolute basic plans, that anybody with half a brain in charge of running a football club would come up with. Unless they were on the take of course...
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Jun 10, 2015 11:26:00 GMT
Post by moorlad on Jun 10, 2015 11:26:00 GMT
The problem mate, is that when questioned about any of this, they just say it would cost too much to repair Brunton Park. There is no costed plan saying how much it would cost, there is sometimes a ridiculous figure plucked out of thin air though, which is designed to make Blue Yonder look more appealing.
It might well be worth the club putting some investment into making Brunton Park a state of the art venue with conference and other facilities close to the centre of a city, with decent links to the M6. There might be opportunities for, say, a decent Sales and Marketing manager to sell the club as a venue for all sorts of things, if the facilities were anything like decent. In fact the whole thing might even be able to be cost neutral or even make a profit. Have they looked at it in that way?
No need to answer, they haven't.
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Post by silloth on Jun 10, 2015 12:25:18 GMT
There will obviously just be 3 sides to redevelop at Brunton Park. One side at a time and finish off the corporate areas in the East Stand for the match day hospitality while the Paddock side in under construction. So I would imagine costings would be very similar to redevelop 3 sides rather than to building a complete new stadium. Maybe take slightly longer to do Brunton Park but at least it will still have a bigger capacity than what is being proposed elsewhere.
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Post by moorlad on Jun 10, 2015 13:46:11 GMT
Well mate, you'd do corporate stuff first, get the conference and hospitality etc stuff in place first have that looking brand new and up to scratch and even looking a bit 21st century, then you could grab some income from that to help carry out the rest of the improvements over time, they could even ring fence any new income generated to go towards paying for the rest of the required improvements. It needs to be the place to go in Carlisle for corporate functions and conferences, it is situated absolutely perfectly to do this. I have no idea what level of income could be generated from this sort of thing, and I'm assuming there would certainly need to be loans as well, but perhaps that would be a bit better than not owning the stadium.
There would then need to be some sort of plan and structure in place for the upkeep of the stadium. Just look at the big hotels in the Lakes. The ones who have a continuing programme of works to keep them up to date are the ones that are always full (I know of one with an occupancy rate of 80% a year), and those that don't keep their renovations up to date struggle. Whether we like it or not, Carlisle United are in the hospitality business, and people are not prepared to put up with crap these days. This is why income from all possible streams, not just attendances id drying up. Stand still and you'll get trampled all over.
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Post by silloth on Jun 10, 2015 14:33:36 GMT
They should take a look at what Carlisle racecourse does to utilise their facilities on non racing days. Always seems to be events going on there.
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