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Post by wetheriggscufc on May 19, 2015 18:48:09 GMT
And classic political tactics from the board, release the good news of Kennedy on the same day as the bad news (?) of the investment.
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Post by exiledjock on May 19, 2015 18:49:04 GMT
It can't just be about cash. It's about putting the club on a professional footing fit for the realities of playing football in the bottom division(s). Laffy's deal might not have been glamorous but it sounded grown up and realistic.
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Post by maddslad on May 19, 2015 18:50:34 GMT
Also if we've allowed someone to hand in their notice on a promise of an MD role and then put the whole thing on hold that's disgusting and will blacken our name in footballing circles
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Post by crunchblue on May 19, 2015 18:51:14 GMT
It can't just be about cash. It's about putting the club on a professional footing fit for the realities of playing football in the bottom division(s). Laffy's deal might not have been glamorous but it sounded grown up and realistic. This. I'd rather have a sensible and long term approach to get the club into a position where it's self sustainable rather than someone chucking money into the current regime for 5 years.
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Post by mullen103 on May 19, 2015 18:52:39 GMT
Also if we've allowed someone to hand in their notice on a promise of an MD role and then put the whole thing on hold that's disgusting and will blacken our name in footballing circles Exactly utterly disgusting either way
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Post by mashiniblick on May 19, 2015 18:56:17 GMT
It's all a load of boll0cks, designed to f_ck Laffy off enough into walking away. There won't even be another bid. Be back to square one next season with these 2 tw@ts and Steve Patt back on board. Happy days!
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Post by kellsblue on May 19, 2015 18:56:21 GMT
I have a very bad feeling about this.
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Post by dcumbrian on May 19, 2015 18:58:19 GMT
Didn't Nixon state they had given Abbott a contract extension because they had given their word and they were people of integrity.
Where's their integrity now?
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Post by gundog on May 19, 2015 18:58:49 GMT
This can only go two ways. We have either been dragged back from the abyss or condemned to stagnating to a slow lingering death. I only hope the present regime know what they are doing, however their track record does not inspire confidence - there will be no hiding place.
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Post by crunchblue on May 19, 2015 18:58:51 GMT
It's all a load of boll0cks, designed to f_ck Laffy off enough into walking away. There won't even be another bid. Be back to square one next season with these 2 tw@ts and Steve Patt back on board. Happy days! This is exactly my fear. Apart from the Pattinson part, I don't think he'll be back.
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Post by thesilentone on May 19, 2015 19:00:22 GMT
The MD thing sounds interesting, at that level no-one gives notice without another written offer on the table, that offer is legal protection. So, if (as has been alleged) the incumbent MD has given notice to his existing employer, then he is coming, or certainly he/she will be on the payroll. Is he/she a Lapping contact ? would they want to come if he is no longer part of the equation ?
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Post by mashiniblick on May 19, 2015 19:00:47 GMT
You don't reckon they'd invite their mate back, if AL walked away then they coincidentally turned down this latest 'offer' for some obvious reason.
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Post by cocaineblues on May 19, 2015 19:00:58 GMT
It's all a load of boll0cks, designed to f_ck Laffy off enough into walking away. There won't even be another bid. Be back to square one next season with these 2 tw@ts and Steve Patt back on board. Happy days! This is exactly my fear. Apart from the Pattinson part, I don't think he'll be back. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if he is on his way back and is currently sat at home fingering himself with nobody paying any attention to him
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Post by dcumbrian on May 19, 2015 19:01:10 GMT
Could be Nixon was expecting a 2 year hand-over period and when the new MD was interviewed realised it would be only two weeks.
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Post by crunchblue on May 19, 2015 19:01:21 GMT
Didn't Nixon state they had given Abbott a contract extension because they had given their word and they were people of integrity. Where's their integrity now? In every interview Nixon harps on about being honourable business men with integrity. Phoning laffy this late in the day and reading a statement to him down the phone after the guys put in 9 months of hard work isn't exactly honourable.
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Post by thesilentone on May 19, 2015 19:06:53 GMT
I think what they are doing is right, but it MUST be credible. It will p..s AL off, however, that's life, he knows that.
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Post by smile on May 19, 2015 19:07:24 GMT
I'm-about to ******* start swearing here!
Say it was true and there was "a new interest" .......your too ******* late mate! What sort of half witted cretins wait until the eleventh hour and come in with a bid? Fuckin morons, who deserve to be shown the door without even a sorry
My god we've had years of morons and cretins running the club. Do we not have any moral compass these days?
If it is a scam by the present incumbents (or is that incompetents?) to stay in control, then **** them Sorry Mr Jenkins, if you think that all the much praised money you have put in to keep us going means You can take the **** royally out of us all, you are now looking like as big a cretin and fuckwit as the rest of them I suspect the crowd figures for next season will reflect the actions of the present' guardians' in this matter
I had reservations about the Lapping Consortium, but to treat them like this It just ******* beggars belief!!!!
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Post by sirjimmyglass on May 19, 2015 19:07:50 GMT
And classic political tactics from the board, release the good news of Kennedy on the same day as the bad news (?) of the investment. I think you're right, but they've spectacularly ballsed that up too. Releasing it after a good signing is all well and good, but at quarter to 6 on a Tuesday right before the football forum? The reason people are so wound up about it is Lapping's response, which if they were bright they'd have anticipated. Until now I've never believed the rubbish about the custodians not genuinely wanting the best for Carlisle United. I don't understand how anyone can still believe that given what's just happened.
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Post by markredfox73 on May 19, 2015 19:08:06 GMT
Im gobsmacked having just found out . Backstabbing *******s should be ashamed of themselves...shocking just shocking behaviour
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Post by cufccumbrian on May 19, 2015 19:10:18 GMT
Could both parties/ investors not pool resources and work together?
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Post by CUFCDeano on May 19, 2015 19:11:54 GMT
Could both parties/ investors not pool resources and work together? You'd assume that this '2nd party' if they even exist, would have contacted Andrew Lapping by now if that's something they were interested in, or thought had legs.
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Post by spaffhead on May 19, 2015 19:11:57 GMT
Deeply concerned with this, personally. It screams that there's something fishy going on. Seems like there is some sort of hidden agenda to me.
I, for one, would not be going anywhere near Brunton park next season unless to protest if they were still in charge. I don't think I could bring myself to pay money with them in the director's box after what we've had to put up with the past few years.
Here's to hoping they're going to do something right for a change. ******* hell.
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Post by crunchblue on May 19, 2015 19:12:30 GMT
At least we've had a month. It's a month to the day almost since we secured safety. The future has looked bright, even up until today with the Kennedy signing.
Now back to the reality of life with this c*** Nixon in charge of things, investment or no investment. What a ******.
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Post by disillusionedblue on May 19, 2015 19:14:34 GMT
Absolute ********s. I'll be cancelling my direct debit season ticket tomorrow.
Bet the thick *******s think that now they've got Lapping to do Freds dirty work and get the trust to dilute their shares,it applies to any other deal.
These ***** deserve everything coming to them.
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Post by spaffhead on May 19, 2015 19:16:16 GMT
Just when we are on the brink of Carlisle United becoming a professional outfit and not a bunch of amateurs, this happens. How didn't we see it coming?
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Post by oldhamblue on May 19, 2015 19:17:04 GMT
I REALLY wonder about the Trust shares.....wonder if Norman S is wrong and it applies to every deal.....if not I can see any new investor struggling to get the deal past the Trust. The current board will clearly blame the Trust and the 'new' members and stay....but what is the end-game then?
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Post by maddslad on May 19, 2015 19:19:18 GMT
I notice how the *******s waited until the season ticket sales had started to come through as well
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Post by gingerballs on May 19, 2015 19:21:09 GMT
I recall Nixon stressing a year or so back, that it was important that the club was handed over to the right people with a long term commitment to the club. How does a 3 to 5 year plan fit into this bracket? Sounds like someone wanting to play a little game of football ownership at our expense. Lapping, as a fan, meets the right criteria. I hope the "custodians" haven't forgotten their responsibilities!
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Post by pbonnyman on May 19, 2015 19:21:35 GMT
Nixon has asked Lapping to "Step aside for 2-3 weeks" whilst other bid looks at books etc. He's spent 9 months of life sorting this. Deffo sounds down. Says he was ready to sort a new MD, with past Football Experience, who took a Club to PL from nowhere. Bloke was at his house interviewing Commercial candidates yesterday. Deal was to be done for 1st July...
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Post by cousinscotty on May 19, 2015 19:22:12 GMT
It's all come as a bit of a shock but possibly the best (and only) thing we can do is wait and see who this new investor is. You never know, it might turn out to be better. Right now, though, it doesn't seem like it and the current regime don't exactly have a good track record. Knighton seemed like a good investor at first, eh?
When all is said and done, if we, the fans, don't like the look of what's on offer then we don't go. Big investors or not, no club is going very far if the terraces are empty. They have got to sell this new deal to us - as voluntary consumers, we can take it or leave it. Since the shenanigans with Knighton, I've often wondered how far Carlisle City would get if hundreds or even thousands of Carlisle football fans went and supported them...
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