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Post by CarlisleReiver on Apr 2, 2015 1:29:29 GMT
I've been reading some of Sterlings contract talks with Liverpool. And does anyone know what the lad is playing at? He says he's not a money grabber and just wants to play and win trophies then talks about Arsenals interest as flattering? He has a 2yr contract at £35k a week, and Liverpool have offered him £100k a week shouldn't he be snapping their hands off. They could play him for the next 2 years without giving him a pay rise after all.
personally I feel this just an excuse to get out of Liverpool and no excuses to the fans can cover it. It shows you how much Liverpool has fallen as force in the European game. A stepping stone.
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Post by blightyblue on Apr 2, 2015 1:38:56 GMT
Must be shite thinking that five million is not enough to earn in a year the poor lamb.
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Post by stinkyturner on Apr 2, 2015 4:26:12 GMT
Don't really blame him tbh, playing him at wing backs not going to make him want to stay in self pity city
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Post by mashiniblick on Apr 2, 2015 5:00:16 GMT
Can't blame the kid. He probably wants Champions League football, not Europa League sh1te. Liverpool can't brag him off to be the best youngster in Europe one minute, then insult him with poor contract offer in comparison to some of his team mates the next... Be fed up of Brendan Rodgers making him withdraw from England duty too, plus the fact he's probably sick of his house being burgled on Merseyside.
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Post by carlislewhite on Apr 2, 2015 6:20:57 GMT
What goes around comes around - Liverpool pinched him from QPR and a bigger club (probably from abroad) will do the same
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Post by reality on Apr 2, 2015 6:22:39 GMT
Just all bloody money, no wonder ticket prices are so crazy.
By 2050 god knows what the average salary of a Premier League Season Ticket holder will be.
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Post by 182blue on Apr 2, 2015 6:44:19 GMT
Annoys me the double standards, fair enough if players want to sign for the mighty Liverpool from all these other Mickey Mouse clubs, but turn the tables and it's all about greed.
Liverpool haven't win the league for 25 years and after blowing their chance last year, would seem unlikely to win it in the next decade.
Can't blame him for keeping his options open.
Think even Steven G had his head turned a couple of times didn't he?
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Post by champagnesupernova on Apr 2, 2015 6:51:10 GMT
Annoys me the double standards, fair enough if players want to sign for the mighty Liverpool from all these other Mickey Mouse clubs, but turn the tables and it's all about greed. Liverpool haven't win the league for 25 years and after blowing their chance last year, would seem unlikely to win it in the next decade. Can't blame him for keeping his options open. Think even Steven G had his head turned a couple of times didn't he? I believe Slippy Steve was, er, 'advised' not to leave, shall we say... |
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Post by parsnipkok on Apr 2, 2015 6:56:18 GMT
In a word (or three); GREEDY LITTLE B*#t*#D.
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Post by northumbrian on Apr 2, 2015 8:10:36 GMT
Why is evryone getting on their high-horse about this one? why is it so difficult to understand that a young kid wants to better himself, play at the top of the game and win trophies?
He has a better chance of winning things if he moves to a Man City or a Chelsea... Liverpool missed their chance last year.
Clearly he is going to earn £100k wherever he plays... it's not his fault that wages are so high in football, the market determines their value. Why is he greedy? He has said he will accept a lower contract at a bigger, more succesful team... thats kind of the opposite of greedy. People haven't really read the story and have just jumped into the usual stereotype argument about footballers and their wages.
The kid wants to improve, he wants to win trophies and he wants to play in the champions league, he wants to play at the highest level... we should be applauding young English players with ambition... rather than berating them for not resting on their laurels taking a lucrative contract with an also-ran team. The more young English players playing at the highest level the better for the national team.
Players wages in general are a different issue... the market dictates them... yes they are high compared to our wages... but they certainly don't earn as much as the top golfers, top tennis players, F1 drivers, NFL players, Baseball stars... etc. and I don't hear them getting as much grief over their earnings.
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Post by reality on Apr 2, 2015 8:17:43 GMT
Golfers and Tennis players earn more money according to success (winning things) and it is pretty much all on their shoulders that success as well when they participate.
The Sport is pretty much fucked at the top level in Western Europe, you are right it is not his fault - no way back now but someone like David Beckham is a hero to many yet has played a big part in all of this.
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Post by nobbyblue on Apr 2, 2015 8:20:13 GMT
I don't blame him. He'll never win out playing for the scousers!
He's also the best player English player since Gazza so best of luck to him.
I think England could have a very good side going forward with Sturridge, Kane, Rooney and Sterling all playing.
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Post by valhalladancehall on Apr 2, 2015 8:51:59 GMT
Players wages in general are a different issue... the market dictates them... yes they are high compared to our wages... but they certainly don't earn as much as the top golfers, top tennis players, F1 drivers, NFL players, Baseball stars... etc. and I don't hear them getting as much grief over their earnings. "GIVE SOLDIERS LEWIS HAMILTON'S WAGES" doesn't have the same ring to it sadly... |
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Post by dancingbear on Apr 2, 2015 9:56:23 GMT
Whereas Harry Kane just signed a new 5 year £35k deal. He must be a absolute ****** eh for not holding out for Man City or Chelsea?. Wonder why Sterling didnt tell Liverpool to piddle off when he left QPR or was he not that bothered about winning things then?
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Post by newbluedream on Apr 2, 2015 10:43:29 GMT
The difference with Kane is that he has always been a Tottenham player, famously he is "one of our own" as Spurs fans keep reminding us. He has an emotional attachment to the club. There is also a degree of optimism within Tottenham that they are a club heading for success in the future, new stadium plans all signed off etc. and Kane wants to be a part of it. It is harder for Liverpool players to be that optimistic when they have sold Suarez and are now unable to persuade Gerrard to stay. If they can't keep Gerrard who can they keep?
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Post by northumbrian on Apr 2, 2015 10:59:55 GMT
Golfers and Tennis players earn more money according to success (winning things) and it is pretty much all on their shoulders that success as well when they participate. The Sport is pretty much fucked at the top level in Western Europe, you are right it is not his fault - no way back now but someone like David Beckham is a hero to many yet has played a big part in all of this. It's no different really.. footballers wages reflect their relative performance as that is what a club is willing to pay. A large proportion of top golfers and tennis players income has nothing to do with prize money. it is advertising and endorsements. |
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Post by reality on Apr 2, 2015 11:06:27 GMT
Golfers and Tennis players earn more money according to success (winning things) and it is pretty much all on their shoulders that success as well when they participate. The Sport is pretty much fucked at the top level in Western Europe, you are right it is not his fault - no way back now but someone like David Beckham is a hero to many yet has played a big part in all of this. It's no different really.. footballers wages reflect their relative performance as that is what a club is willing to pay. A large proportion of top golfers and tennis players income has nothing to do with prize money. it is advertising and endorsements. It's much more than their prize money in many cases but at least Tennis and Golfers really do have to perform alone to earn the prize money/wages, Sterling hasn't even won out major yet - that's why I say it's cocked. www.statista.com/statistics/201486/wages-of-the-worlds-highest-paid-tennis-players/Like to see what he ends up with compared to this David Selke who has just dropped down from Bundesliga to Bundesliga 2 to join Red Bull Leipzig, bet it is stacks more but it is big news that move here. |
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Post by northumbrian on Apr 2, 2015 11:13:01 GMT
Whereas Harry Kane just signed a new 5 year £35k deal. He must be a absolute ****** eh for not holding out for Man City or Chelsea?. Wonder why Sterling didnt tell Liverpool to piddle off when he left QPR or was he not that bothered about winning things then? Kane is still at an earlier stage of his career... the deal is similar to Sterlings previous deal... when he was at a similar stage. Kane has had 2/3 of a season in the Premier League basically. I've no doubt in a couple of years time he will be getting a renegotiated deal for £100k+ if he continues his success. This is Liverpools own fault for not signing him up to a better deal at an earlier stage. Ultimately the top players wont stay at eufa cup teams long term if they have the chance to regularly challenge for honours elsewhere.
He left QPR to play at a higher level with Liverpool... they were probably the biggest team that came in for him at the time. He had more chance of winning top honours with Liverpool than QPR.
There is so much BS and politics of envy that surrounds stories like this. Yes, he is an ambitious young footballer, who wants to play for the best teams, be the best player that he can be, win as many trophies as possible and probably also get paid as much as he can... what the hell is wrong with that? All truely top class players aim for that. Loyalty in football works both ways... if Liverpool had believed in Sterling's ability they should have shown that belief by signing him up to a longer, better contract... but they didn't show him the loyalty that Spurs have just shown Kane. They allowed him to get to the last year or so of his contract... it is 100% their fault.
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Post by northumbrian on Apr 2, 2015 11:14:26 GMT
It's no different really.. footballers wages reflect their relative performance as that is what a club is willing to pay. A large proportion of top golfers and tennis players income has nothing to do with prize money. it is advertising and endorsements. It's much more than their prize money in many cases but at least Tennis and Golfers really do have to perform alone to earn the prize money/wages, Sterling hasn't even won out major yet - that's why I say it's cocked.
www.statista.com/statistics/201486/wages-of-the-worlds-highest-paid-tennis-players/Like to see what he ends up with compared to this David Selke who has just dropped down from Bundesliga to Bundesliga 2 to join Red Bull Leipzig, bet it is stacks more but it is big news that move here. And that is exactly why he is looking to move... |
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Post by reality on Apr 2, 2015 11:20:50 GMT
It's much more than their prize money in many cases but at least Tennis and Golfers really do have to perform alone to earn the prize money/wages, Sterling hasn't even won out major yet - that's why I say it's cocked.
www.statista.com/statistics/201486/wages-of-the-worlds-highest-paid-tennis-players/Like to see what he ends up with compared to this David Selke who has just dropped down from Bundesliga to Bundesliga 2 to join Red Bull Leipzig, bet it is stacks more but it is big news that move here. And that is exactly why he is looking to move... Hmmm, why is Ward asking for a higher wage then (apparently)? |
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Post by sirjimmyglass on Apr 2, 2015 11:28:34 GMT
Northumbrian has it bang on here. If he wants to win trophies he needs to move club. He knows there'll be plenty of top clubs in for him so he's making sure he doesn't get tied down to Liverpool.
Typical media making a storm out of this, trying to make out that he's being incredibly greedy (and people believing it).
Lewis Hamilton has just signed a deal for £27m per year, yet this for some reason is a much bigger story.
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Post by reality on Apr 2, 2015 11:32:33 GMT
That would be fair enough jimmyglass, pointless having any talks to me - just say he wants to leave and it's all in the open (never going to happen of course). F1 driving is a much rarer skill mind than being a Footballer, bound to be able to call the shots over a fee when you are the current World Champion as well I would have thought.
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Post by sirjimmyglass on Apr 2, 2015 11:44:07 GMT
It wouldn't be wise saying you want to leave though, because if Liverpool did end up getting in to the champions league of no clubs came in for him that he fancied going to then he would have burnt his bridges with them. All he's doing is leaving his options open.
Formula 1 is a rarer thing to be as good as LH is, but it's still a ludicrous amount of money. Is he worth it though? If that's what it takes for him to stay with Mercedes and there's sufficient money in the sport then yes he is.
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Post by reality on Apr 2, 2015 11:47:30 GMT
Pr disaster either way, should have said he wanted to focus on getting Liverpool in the CL and talk about it once the season had finished.
Football always be more talked about than F1 in England, only thing I know about F1 really is the ticket prices are gigantic and when I hear about that deal it is no surprise! Exactly what I think when I hear of these obscene wages in Football in relation to how much people have to pay to watch matches.
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Post by dancingbear on Apr 2, 2015 12:14:23 GMT
Exactly. Its not as if hes playing for Stoke or Hull or summat.
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Post by northumbrian on Apr 2, 2015 12:32:41 GMT
We should want our best young players to be ambitious and driven to get to the very top of the game. The best sport's people are driven, single minded, selfish and a bit ruthless with decisions... that's how they get to the top of their profession. That is how Hamilton, Federer, Ronaldo, etc. have made it to the top of their field. Yet somehow we expect our young fottballers to be loyal to clubs, settle for second best, and take less than they are worth... It's all media driven populist BS. We need more young English footballers to have this kind of single minded attitude rather than less, well if we ever want to compete at international level that is. There were nearly twice as many Brazilians as English players in the knock out stages of the Champions league this season... that is ridiculous. Our players need to stop settling for the safe option and start striving to do anything to be better players, including playing abroad for top teams.
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Post by reality on Apr 2, 2015 12:36:01 GMT
Brazilian wages for Football are very different to those on offer in certain parts of Europe mind ain't they. Never lived in Brazil but a lot of those who end up in Europe aren't from the greatest of backgrounds either so will be happy to move nigh on anywhere when young. He's going to look a right one ain't he if he ends up signing a new deal at Liverpool. Just listened to that radio 5 live show on it all and they made a point about Ronaldo having to take around 5 years till he really hit the top and could call the shots on where he played etc... downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/fivelive/5lfd/5lfd_20150401-2059a.mp3 |
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Post by nobbyblue on Apr 2, 2015 12:37:36 GMT
It's a tough business you've got to look after yourself. If for argument's sake he'd struggled badly at Liverpool the scousers would have had no qualms in throwing him on the scrap heap.
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Post by dancingbear on Apr 2, 2015 12:42:17 GMT
Northumbrian i do agree a bit with what your saying but Liverpool are a bigger club with better history than Man City and Chelsea. That may not be a popular thing to say on here but its true. As for people arguing that they cant keep Gerrard, hes bl oody past it or they would be keeping him. I also dont really think its fair comparing a individual sport to a team sport to describe how driven a individual is.
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Post by dancingbear on Apr 2, 2015 12:43:10 GMT
It's a tough business you've got to look after yourself. If for argument's sake he'd struggled badly at Liverpool the scousers would have had no qualms in throwing him on the scrap heap. Aye your right Nobby. Hows the poor sod gonna manage on £5 million a year. |
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